Posted on 08/12/2008 1:40:53 PM PDT by NYer
In addition to being irreverent, only the receivers of the Tradition know the true pronunciation of the Shem HaMeforash (the Ineffable Name).
It is not political correctness. The clumsy "pronunciation" of G-d's Name (a reconstruction by atheist "Bible scholars") is irreverent.
Well, no actually I meant someone who doesn’t want to be there.
And a Happy Feast of the Assumption to you!
“What other word, in modern or ancient Hebrew has a SILENT hey in the middle of it? All those that think they know how to pronounce this without the vowels, treat the hey as if it were silent. Too few syllables.”
I agree... the Name should have three syllables. Could the missing vowels be those that rhyme with the Hebrew word for love? God is Love.
-—Sorry, pal, no can do. “Participation” is a protestant thing. We reserve the right to pray and reflect quietly.-—
Well Catholics don’t exactly reserve their lack of participation to singing, do they? They mumble their way through the Nicene creed and most other responses at Mass. Perhaps it is quiet reflection on the part of some, but my sense of body language tells me that in most cases it is because they don’t really believe what they are saying and are only at Mass out of some deeply ingrained sense of guilt. Really, if everyone in that Church truly believed what they were saying, they would be leaping up and shouting, not quietly muttering their Hail Marys in the corner. The church speaking , praying and singing with one voice is a tremendous symbol of the power and glory of God. But the opposite also holds. When the church splits into small groups obsessed with their own private vision of God, this only symbolizes the powerlessness of God.
Precisely. As a Jew I am very aware of the political correctness practiced on this side of the fence. Jews have politely refrained from boldly declaring to Christians that our God is simply not your God. It has been expedient to avoid such confrontations in the past because of fear of the ensuing persecution. The truth is that orthodox Jews do not honestly think of the trinity as being our God where He is at best one member of “God Inc.” To us this is a foreign God that our forefathers did not know. For us to believe that the trinity is the equivalent of our God would be idolatry. The plain truth is that we do not worship the same God. And this is why dropping the tetragrammaton from your liturgy and worship is an excellent and long overdue directive.
Thanks for the chuckle!
Where on earth does it say this in the Bible? So you’re saying that it’s okay to disrespect Yahweh by using a false name and a man-made substitute? You can study the Bible from beginning to end, and you will not find this logic, you will find just the opposite.
Then it’s obvious that many Catholics do not know about the false ineffable name doctrine, when it started. It’s all phoney baloney and yet people don’t have the energy to research it even though it’s all out there?
Then, on the other hand, it’s okay for the Muslims to call on their deity, Allah, but even though the Scriptures state that all of mankind must call upon Yahweh to be saved, guess it’s just not important to anyone at all.
And, BTW, it is four vowels, not consonants. Not only is there ancient testimony to this fact, but many good Hebrew grammar books also teach that the four letters, yodh, hey, waw, hey, are four semi-vowel letters much like we have in English. Yahweh’s name is totally complete.
Jewels
It seems to me that it is respectful to all and wise over all to refrain from using another religion's name for the God they worship when we are honoring and worshipping God. Neither Jews nor Muslims consider the Son and the Holy Spirit a part of their God.
These statements should not diminish or enhance any religion,they are just facts that people should consider when discussing the subject.
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