Posted on 05/05/2008 7:56:39 AM PDT by Old Mountain man
GUIDE TO THE SCRIPTURES Alma, Son of Alma See also Alma the Elder; Amulek; Mosiah, Sons of In the Book of Mormon, the first chief judge and prophet in the Nephite nation. In his early years he sought to destroy the Church (Mosiah 27: 8-10). However, an angel appeared to him and he was converted to the gospel (Mosiah 27: 8-24; Alma 36: 6-27). Later he gave up his position as chief judge in order to teach the people (Alma 4: 11-20). The book of Alma: A separate book in the Book of Mormon, comprising an abridgment of the records of the prophets Alma, the son of Alma, and his son Helaman. The events depicted in the book take place from approximately 91 to 52 B.C. The book contains 63 chapters. Chapters 1-4 describe the rebellion of the followers of Nehor and Amlici against the Nephites. The resulting wars were among the most destructive to that point in Nephite history. Chapters 5-16 contain the account of Alma’s early missionary journeys, including his sermon on the Good Shepherd (Alma 5) and his preaching with Amulek in the city Ammonihah. Chapters 17-27 contain the record of the sons of Mosiah and their ministry among the Lamanites. Chapters 28-44 contain some of Alma’s most important sermons. In chapter 32 Alma compared the word to a seed; in chapter 36 he recounted his conversion story to his son Helaman. Chapters 39-42 record Alma’s counsel to his son Corianton, who had become involved in moral transgression; this important sermon explains justice, mercy, resurrection, and the Atonement. Chapters 45-63 describe Nephite wars of that time period and migrations under Hagoth. Such great leaders as Captain Moroni, Teancum, and Lehi helped to preserve the Nephites through their courageous and timely actions.
Dang. And I though Numbers was hard to read.
Try it, you’ll like it!
Should this thread be in the Religion forum, or is there something in it related to news/activism that I missed? Just asking...
We did. We sat in a Marriott one day and read through the BOM. It reads like a Michener novel. A non-Mormon slogging through the BOM is like an non-believer slogging through Numbers and Leviticus.
No wonder Smith picked it up cheap at a yard sale. :)
Our church even has a Book of Mormon in the church library.
Here Freepers....from the Book of Alma:
10 Yea, we see that Amalickiah, because he was a man of cunning device and a man of many flattering words, that he led away the hearts of many people to do wickedly; yea, and to seek to adestroy the church of God, and to destroy the foundation of bliberty which God had granted unto them, or which blessing God had sent upon the face of the land for the crighteous’ sake.
11 And now it came to pass that when Moroni, who was the achief commander of the armies of the Nephites, had heard of these dissensions, he was angry with Amalickiah.
12 And it came to pass that he rent his coat; and he took a piece thereof, and wrote upon it—aIn memory of our God, our religion, and freedom, and our peace, our wives, and our children—and he fastened it upon the end of a pole.
13 And he fastened on his head-plate, and his abreastplate, and his shields, and girded on his armor about his loins; and he took the pole, which had on the end thereof his rent coat, (and he called it the btitle of liberty) and he cbowed himself to the earth, and he prayed mightily unto his God for the blessings of liberty to rest upon his brethren, so long as there should a band of dChristians remain to possess the land—
14 For thus were all the true believers of Christ, who belonged to the church of God, called by those who did not belong to the church.
Alma 46
Alma is a town in Georgia. And they make great profits on speeding tickets..........especially on Florida plates.....
This statement assumes that these inhabitants of ancient America were aware of how the Jews built their synagogues. Synagogues were an integral part of Jewish society in the times of Jesus as we see in the New Testament. The synagogue was established for the study of the Law, and differed very much from the temple worship of the Old Testament period, which involved many sacrifices in keeping with the Law of Moses. Scientific and archaeological evidence points to the origin of synsgagues as being about the latter part of the intertestamental period.
How could Alma and Amulek know how the Jews built thier synagogues when the Jews themselves weren t building them before Lehi (supposedly) left for the Americas in 600 BC?
Why are plough-based crops such as barley (Alma 11:7) mentioned in the Book of Mormon when they didn't exist in the new world at that time?
In the book of Alma 28:14-29:1-11, more than 30 changes may be counted from the original edition, and on page 303 of the original edition the statement, "Yea, decree unto them that decrees which are unalterable," has been expurged. (See Alma 29:4.)
Alma 7:9, 10 states:
“the son of God cometh upon the face of the earth. And behold, he shall be born of Mary, at Jerusalem, which is the land of our forefathers.”,p. However, Bethlehem is not Jerusalem but an entirely separate city in those days.
Book of Alma, p.303; (1830): "yea, I know that he allotteth unto men, yea, decreeth unto them decrees which are unalterable,according to their wills.."
Book of Mormon (1950):Alma 29:4:"yea, I know that he allotteth unto men [?].according to their wills.. "
Today: Alma 29:4: "yea, I know that he allotteth unto men, yea, decreeth unto them decrees which are unalterable,.according to their wills.. "
Book of Alma, p.236; (1830): "I know that Jesus Christ shall come; yea the Son of the only begotten of the Father..."
Today: Alma 5:48: "I know that Jesus Christ shall come; yea the Son,[?] the only begotten of the Father..."
Book of Alma p.315; (1830): "But behold, as the seed swelleth and sprouteth and beginneth to grow, and then ye must needs say, That seed is good; for behold, it swelleth and sprouteth and beginneth to grow."
Today: Alma 32:30: "But behold, as the seed swelleth and sprouteth and beginneth to grow, and then ye must needs say, That seed is good; for behold, it swelleth and sprouteth and beginneth to grow. And now behold, will not this strengthen your faith? Yea, it will strengthen your faith: for ye will say that I know that this is a good seed; for behold, it sprouteth and beginneth to grow."
Book of Alma p.328; (1830): "yea, and that ye preserve these directors."
Today: Alma 37:21: "yea, and that ye preserve these interpreters."
Book of Alma p.328; (1830): "And now my son, these directors were prepared that the word of God might be fulfilled..."
Today: Alma 37:24: "And now my son, these interpreters were prepared that the word of God might be fulfilled..."
Alma 13:1: "...my brethren, I would cite your minds forward to the time when the Lord God gave these commandments unto his children..." How can you "cite" someone's mind "forward" to something that happened in the past?
Alma 24:19: "...they buried their weapons of peace, or they buried the weapons of war for peace." What is a weapon of peace, and can it be the same as a weapon of war?
Alma 43:38: "they being shielded from the more vital parts of the body,..." How does one shield oneself from the vital parts of one's own body?
The “horse” is mentioned in Alma 18:9-12 and Alma 20:6,however they were not in the americas until the arrival of the spanish.
In Alma 46:15, believers are called "Christians" in about 73 BC, which contradicts both common sense and Acts 11:26.
Yep, Alma is a hit
All fiction. Like phony Moroni.
From: A BIOLOGIST LOOKS AT THE BOOK OF MORMON by Dr. Thomas Key (http://www.saintsalive.com/mormonism/biologist_looks.htm). Dr. Key said: I have thoroughly enjoyed my LDS friends. It is refreshing to be around people who live their convictions. So, it is not with malice, but with deep love and respect that I point out a few of the numerous scientific problems in the Book of Mormon.
OTHER BOTANICAL PROBLEMS 1 Nephi 13:7, Alma 1:29, and 4:6, Helaman 6:13 and Ether 10:4 speak of linen (flax cloth).
Plant grafting is mentioned in 1 Nephi 15:16 and Jacob 5, yet there is no evidence that the Indians practiced this in 600 BC - 421 AD. Pruning is mentioned in 2 Nephi 15:6 and faces a similar problem. To describe seed and plant growth as "swelling" (Alma 32:28-34 and 33:23) is naive and grossly inaccurate. It reflects the error of preformationism (a discredited scientific hypothesis which held that the entire totality of the mature organism is contained in miniature in the seed).
ZOOLOGICAL PROBLEMS: Satyrs (2 Nephi 23:21) and dragons (2 Nephi 23:22,8:9) are mentioned as literal creatures. Chickens (3 Nephi 10:4-6) and dogs (Alma 16:10, Mosiah 12:2, and 3 Nephi 7:8) were non-existent here at the time… Silk is erroneously mentioned as being produced in the Americas at that time (1 Nephi 13:7, Alma 4:6 and Ether 9:1 7 and 10:24). But silkworm moths had not yet been introduced from Asia.
MICRO-BIOLOGICAL PROBLEMS Alma 46:40 attributes "the cause of disease to ... the nature of the climate," instead of to fifth, poor diet, or germs. Alma 16:1 tells us that the stench of those killed in one battle was so strong that "the people did not go in to possess the land of Ammonihah for many years ... and their lands remained desolate." Action of bacteria, fungi, worms, insects, vultures etc., would require no more than a few weeks at the very most to disposes of these carcasses and their odors-not "many years!"
PHYSIOLOGICAL PROBLEMS … Alma 57:25 asserts that all in an army of 2,060 received many wounds, yet none died.
The implied reproduction rate in the Book of Mormon is astronomical! The story starts in 600 BC and ends in 421 AD. It involves a handful of people who travel from "the land of Jerusalem" [sic] to the Promised Land of America. Every four or five years or so there are devastating wars that kill many thousands of people (Alma 28:2, etc.), or as Ether 15:2 says, "nearly two millions of mighty men" in addition to their wives and children. For this to be so, it would be necessary for each couple to have scores of children, and for them to reach maturity in three or so years throughout the supposed period between 600 BC and 421 AD.
The description of the resurrection body in Alma 40:23 is astounding to say the least. It says that nothing shall be lost, not even a hair. In light of the fact that we shed a few score body and head hairs every week, and we "decommission" countless blood, skin, and other cells weekly, it is unrealistic to assert that all of these lost parts will be restored to us.
PHYSICAL AND CHEMICAL PROBLEMS: Alma 24:16 speaks of burying swords in the earth to keep them bright. On the contrary, this would speed their rusting. Even stainless steel would rust eventually under those conditions.
TECHNOLOGICAL PROBLEMS It is erroneous for a book supposedly written in North America at that time to mention… scimitars (Alma 2:12)… chariots (Alma 18:12; 20:6; 3 Nephi 21:14)…forts (Alma 48:8), a javelin (Alma 51:34)…head plate and armor for the loins (Alma 46:13), compass (Alma 37:38, 44), spindles and spinning (Alma 37:40), sickles (Alma 26:5), yoke (1 Nephi 13:5), strong cords (Alma 26:29)…
OTHER CULTURAL PROBLEMS include references to mammon (a Greek god of wealth3 Nephi 13:24), lawyers and judges (Alma 10: 14-15 and 3 Nephi 6: 1)… . 2 Nephi 5:23 and Alma 3:6-10 say that anyone who marries an Indian "shall be cursed with the same cursing." If this were true, why do people who are only part Indian not look full Indian?
THE TOP EIGHT ABSURDITIES OF THE BOOK OF ALMA IN THE BOOK OF MORMON:
(1) Alma 7:10: All those Christmas carols and hymns need to be re-recorded!!! Let’s get those tourist routes altered in modern-day Israel! Luke 2:4-7 must be wrong! Jesus wasn’t born in Bethlehem. Nope! (He was born in Jerusalem, says the Book of Mormon)
(2a) Alma 3:5-6: The Lamanites were naked, and their skins were dark because of a curse from God.
(2b) Alma 3:8-9 God darkened the skin of the Lamanites (Native Americans) to keep them separate from the Nephites. AND Whoever "mingles his seed" with the Lamanites will be cursed by God and will "bring the same curse upon his seed." (Their children will have dark skins.)
(2c) Alma 3:10 Whoever is led away by the Lamanites will have "a mark set upon him." (God will darken his skin?)
(2d) Alma 3:14: God darkened the skin of the Lamanites (Native Americans) to forever separate them from the Nephites.
(2e) Alma 3:15 Whoever "mingles his seed" with the Lamanites will be cursed by God. (They and their children will have dark skins.)
The following perhaps shows why so many Mormons like latching on to an "anti" title & waving it at those they disagree with!
(3a) Alma 23:17 The Lamanites that converted were called "Anti-Nephi-Lehies." Now that's a catchy name!
(3b) Alma 23:18 God's curse of the Lamanites was lifted from the "Anti-Nephi-Lehies." So did their skin became "white and delightsome" again?
(3c) Alma 24:3 The king named his son "Anti-Nephi-Lehi."
(4) Alma 46:13-16 & 48:10 The Nephites were all "Christians"--"true believers of Christ" -- 73 or so years before Christ was born, and well over 100 years before the Bible (Whereas Acts 11:26 claims the followers of Christ were first called "Christians".)
(5) Alma19:5 [Ah, he’s not stinky…well, no more than he usually was] Tthe Queen says her husband has been dead for 2 days & 2 nights "Others say that he is dead and that he stinketh ... but as for myself, to me he doth not stink."
(6) Alma 48:15 "God would prosper them in the land, or in other words,...God...would prosper them in the land." [In other words, my instinct tells me that God would prosper them in the land…boy it’s a tough thing those gold plates were so hard to write on…otherwise I’m sure we would have rec’d more details]
(7) [Ah, a new Guiness record!] Joseph Smith used "behold" 27 times in Alma 26! This may be the most "beholds" in any chapter in literature. (The most it's ever used in the King James Version is 21 in Lev.13.)
(8) [Here, write this financial conversion chart in case you’re out on a picnic & find random gold plates or silver plates in the ground] : Alma 11:5-19: Now the reckoning is thus -- a senine of gold, a seon of gold, a shum of gold, and a limnah of gold. A senum of silver, an amnor of silver, an ezrom of silver, and an onti of silver. A senum of silver was equal to a senine of gold .....Now an antion of gold is equal to three shiblons. [got it?] Source for above: “Absurdity in the Book of Mormon” see http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/abs/long.html
Just LOOK at the stuff you can get people to believe if you listen to two deceiving spirits!
For the benefit of those who have not thoroughly examined the Book of Mormon, the document contains many, many more errors not mentioned by Colorfornian or Godzilla. Perhaps my favorite is the story of the migration of the Jerodite people from the Middle East at the time of the Tower of Babel -- in nothing less than submarine barges.
One last point should be noted. The Book Alma contradicts several essential Mormon doctrines found in other LDS Scripture. For example:
However, Mormonism teaches there are many gods (e.g. Joseph Smith, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p. 5).
However, Mormonism teaches the Trinity is three separate gods (e.g. James Talmage, Articles of Faith, p. 35. 1985).
However, Mormonism teaches God is increasing in knowledge (e.g. Joseph Smith, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p. 120).
However, Mormonism teaches God has the form of a man (e.g. Joseph Smith, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p. 3).
Now the reckoning is thus -- a senine of gold, a seon of gold, a shum of gold, and a limnah of gold. A senum of silver, an amnor of silver, an ezrom of silver, and an onti of silver. A senum of silver was equal to a senine of gold .....Now an antion of gold is equal to three shiblons.
I hear that the LDS Organization® is filing suit against the estate of Dr. Suess for plagiarism.
The mods have declared that the news forum is the place for all things mormon.
The Flying Inmans take to the skies to fly the Ilky Way! (John 14:6)
And it is b*ll shi*t to do so.
As well as using chasimus
Wouldn’t that then open the door for ALL religious discussions to be posted in News/Activism?
I can see threads about any religion that has political or social involvement but one to just promote a religion?
So the question becomes: why is it that FR has started promoting lds on news forums?
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