[the invisib1e hand]

logic is not the strong suit of the evengelical. well, I take that back. It actually takes a herculean torture of logic to remove the Church from the Faith.

[cdcdawg]

what you say may or may not be true, but the present post is anything but the epitome of logic. It pretty much hits for the cycle in fallacies, which is a hallmark of modern Catholic apologetics. The Staw-man is the star player.

Personally, I think evangelicals of the Arminian/Weslyan tradition (in which Tradition is respected, though not equal to Scripture) are mostly right, though they generally don't know why they are right. That makes them inept at defending their positions. How Republican of them.

[blue-duncan]

“well, I take that back. It actually takes a herculean torture of logic to remove the Church from the Faith.”

Really, point out in scripture one reference to either tradition or the “Church” able to make one wise unto salvation.

2Ti 3:15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are well, I take that back. It actually takes a herculean torture of logic to remove the Church from the Faith.through faith which is in Christ Jesus. All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

[Quix]

No.

The Roman Catholic Edifice

HAS REMOVED ITSELF from the walk of authentic faith quite repeatedly and quite outrageously over the centuries from relatively early on.

But then that's the nature of bureaucracies and especially so of RELIGIOUS bureaucracies . . . doing their own thing . . . God can take a hike . . . they have RUBBER HISTORY WRITING and CONTOLLING OVER THE SERFS to do.

[Iscool]

logic is not the strong suit of the evengelical. well, I take that back. It actually takes a herculean torture of logic to remove the Church from the Faith.

Logic, like common sense, are for people who don't know Truth...