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Interview with Archbp. Ranjith: those who resist Summorum Pontificum guilty of the sin of pride
WDTPRS ^ | November 5, 2007 | Fr. Zuhlsdorf

Posted on 11/05/2007 11:59:00 AM PST by maryz

CATEGORY: SESSIUNCULUM, SUMMORUM PONTIFICUM — Fr. John Zuhlsdorf @ 1:25 pm

The highly estimable Secretary of the Congregation for Divine Worship and Discipline of the Sacraments, His Excellency Most Reverend Malcolm Ranjith Patabendige gave an interview to Bruno Volpe of Petrus where you can find the original Italian.

Rorate has their own translation, but here is mine with my emphases:

Your Excellency, what kind of reception has Benedict XVI´s Motu Proprio which liberalized the Holy Mass according to the Tridentine Rite had? Some, in the very bosom of the Church, have got their noses bent out of shape…

"There have been positive reactions and, it’s pointless to deny it, criticisms and oppositing positions, also on the part of theologians, liturgists, priests, Bishops, and even Cardinals. Frankly, I don’t understand this distancing from, and, let’s just say it, rebellion against the Pope. I invite all, above all shepherds, to obey the Pope, who is the Successor of Peter. Bishops, in particular, swore loyalty to the Pontiff: they must be consistent and faithful to their commitment."

In your view, what are these demonstrations against the Motu Proprio due to?

"You know there have been, on the part of some dioceses, even interpretative documents which inexplicably aim at putting limits on the Pope’s Motu Proprio. Behind these actions there are hidden, on one hand, prejudices>/b> of an ideological kind and, on the other hand, pride, one of the gravest sins. I repeat: I call on everyone to obey the Pope. If the Holy father decided he had to issue the Motu Proprio, he had his reasons which I share entirely."

The derestriction of the the Tridentine Rite by Benedict XVI appears to be the right remedy for the many liturgical abuses sadly recounted after the Second Vatican Council with the ‘Novus Ordo’...

"Look, I don’t want to criticize the ‘Novus Ordo’. But I have to laugh when I hear it said, even by friends, that in a some parish, a priest is a ‘saint’ because of his homily or how well he speaks. Holy Mass is sacrifice, gift, mystery, independently of the priest celebrating it. It is important, nay rather, fundamental that the priest step aside: the protagonist of the Mass is Christ. So I really don’t understand these Eucharistic celebrations turned into shows with dances, songs or applause, as frequently happens with the Novus Ordo."

Monsignor Patabendige, your Congregation has repeatedly denounced these liturgical abuses…

"True. However, there are so many documents which have sadly remained dead letters, winding up on dusty shelves or, worse yet, in waste baskets."

Another point: one often hears very long homilies…

"This is an abuse too. I’m against dances and applause during Masses, which aren’t a circus or stadium. Regarding homilies, they must be about, as the Pope has underscored, the catechetical dimension exclusively, avoiding sociologizing and pointless chatter. For example, priests jump onto some political point because they didn’t prepare their homily well, which really ought to be scrupulously worked on. An excessively long homily is synonymous with poor preparation: the right length of time for a sermon should be 10 minutes, 15 at most. You have to remember that the high point of the celebration is the Eucharistic mystery, without of course intending to downplay the liturgy of the Word, but rather to make clear how to carry out a correct liturgy."

Returning to the Motu Proprio: some criticize the use of Latin during Mass…

"The Tridentine Rite is part of the tradition of the Church. The Pope has duly explained the reasons for his provision, an act of liberty and justice towards traditionalists. As for Latin, I would underscore that it was never been abolished and, what is more, that it secures the universality of the Church. But I repeat: I urge priests, bishops, and cardinals to obedience, setting aside every kind of pride and prejudice."

I have a couple observations.

Archbp. Ranjith identifies resistance to Summorum Pontificum, that is, attempting to impose restrictions on the Pope’s wide provisions, as a manfestation of the sin of pride.

Ranjith firmly establishes that Christ is the true actor in the Mass. Thus, since He is the Actor, what He does in the liturgy (the Church’s texts and the our gestures defined by rubrics) is Christ acting and speaking through us. Our active participation, therefore, be characterized by active participation by active receptivity.

Since Christ is the true Actor, the priest needs to get out of the way and not impose too much his own personality on any liturgical action. The older form of Mass, in its precision of rubrics first and foremost, but also its gestalt tends to control the priest. The newer form of Mass frees him up in a way that is a little risky. Also, we could say that the ad orientem manner of saying Mass also helps to get the priest out of the way so that everyone can focus more fully on the Lord together.

About that phrase of "liberty and justice" towards "traditionalists". In an amazing coincidence I was reading this morning a new little book by a liturgist at the liturgical institute Sant’Anselmo in Rome, Andrea Grillo (born 1961) entitled Oltre Pio V... Beyond Pius V. Though I am not too far into this book, and probably won’t go much further, Grillo takes exception to the argument in favor of the provisions of Summorum Pontificum based on "freedom" of rites. I will look over that section again and maybe post some comments on it elsewhere. But it strikes me that Archbp. Ranjith knows precisely who, in Rome and around the world, is fighting the Motu Proprio and with what arguments.

Therefore, WDTPRS will continue to keep and eye on things and let people know what is going on. If I can’t always provide lots of analysis or review everyone you readers inform me about, I can at least put certain positive and negative positions in the spotlight. You can do your own digging and decide what is going on.


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KEYWORDS: summorumpontificum; tridentine
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1 posted on 11/05/2007 11:59:02 AM PST by maryz
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To: Frank Sheed; sneakers; Mercat; Cheverus; Pandora the Great

Archbishop Ranjith hits another one out of the park!


2 posted on 11/05/2007 12:00:18 PM PST by maryz
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Rome’s fury: Motu Proprio mutiny ‘sinful’
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/ukcorrespondents/holysmoke/november07/romes-fury.htm

Posted by Damian Thompson on 05 Nov 2007 at 16:27
telegraph.co.uk

The Vatican has vented its fury at the mutinous response of liberal bishops and cardinals to the Pope’s liberation of the traditional Latin Mass.

Archbishop Malcolm Ranjith, Secretary of the Congregation for Divine Worship, has accused dioceses that try to sabotage the Pope’s Motu Proprio of “prejudices of an ideological kind” and “pride, one of the gravest sins”. Well said!

The archbishop does not name the prelates he considers to be in a state of “rebellion towards the Pope”, as he puts it. But one thing is clear: overall, the reaction of the Bishops of England and Wales to Pope Benedict’s ruling has been truly dismal.

This is just guesswork, but I wouldn’t surprised if Archbishop’s Ranjith’s remarks were directed partly at the Diocese of Portsmouth, whose “director of liturgy” Paul Inwood produced an appalling set of guidelines that tried to ban Catholics for asking for the traditional Mass.

Two other names that come to mind are Bishop Kieran Conry of Arundel and Brighton and Bishop Arthur Roche of Leeds, both of whom have written letters contrary to the letter and spirit of the Pope’s wishes.

Hat-tip to Petavius and the Rorate Caeli blog for alerting me to the archbishop’s interview, given to Bruno Volpe of the papal news website Petrus. Here are the money quotes:

“There have been positive reactions [to the Motu Proprio] and, it is useless to deny it, criticisms and opposition, even from theologians, liturgists, priests, bishops, and even cardinals. I frankly do not understand these rifts, and, why not [say it], rebellion towards the Pope. I invite all, particularly the Shepherds, to obey the Pope, who is the Successor of Peter. The Bishops, in particular, have sworn fidelity to the Pontiff: may they be coherent and faithful to their commitment…

“You know that there have been, by some dioceses, even interpretative documents which inexplicably intend to limit the Pope’s Motu Proprio. These actions mask behind them, on one hand, prejudices of an ideological kind and, on the other, pride, one of the gravest sins. I repeat: I call all to obey the Pope. If the Holy Father decided to promulgate the Motu Proprio, he had his reasons, which I fully share.”

Such ferocious comments by a senior figure in the Curia indicate that Rome is not prepared to stand by and watch liberal bishops ignore Pope Benedict’s decision to restore the former Tridentine Rite to full parity with the Mass of Paul VI.

Archbishop Ranjith, 58, a Dutch-born Sri Lankan, is a man after the Pope’s heart: he loves the traditional Mass and celebrates it in his private chapel. He speaks with a forthright eloquence rarely encountered among English bishops. Here is a taste of his style, from a recent address in the Netherlands:

“The Church cannot be the arena of confusion, philosophical or moral relativism, sophistry and casuistic dilution of the revealed truth which is the foundation of its Credo, the Word of God as revealed in the Sacred Scriptures and the Tradition of the Church and interpreted by the official magisterium of the Church and open dissent or public debate even in the name of the freedom of theological research.

“My mind goes back to the story of the construction or shall we say the attempted construction of the Tower of Babel. Its constructors felt confident that they could scale the heavens with their own resources and strength without God. Hasn’t that same spirit re-appeared perhaps in a more sophisticated form in the world and the Church today?”

Archbishop Ranjith is no fool: he is appalled by the stroppy, work-to-rule mentality of bishops who think they are popes in their own dioceses and have no intention of implementing a ruling they don’t like.

As for the identity of the unnamed cardinals, your guess is as good as mine. Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O’Connor of Westminster hasn’t said anything that could get him into trouble – but neither has he manifested the slightest enthusiasm for – or interest in – this crucial aspect of Benedict’s reform of the liturgy. He’s keeping his head down, as usual.

Posted by Damian Thompson on 05 Nov 2007 at 16:27


3 posted on 11/05/2007 1:20:52 PM PST by Mike32
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To: maryz
“The highly estimable Secretary of the Congregation for Divine Worship and Discipline of the Sacraments, His Excellency Most Reverend Malcolm Ranjith Patabendige”

someone identified thusly says someone else is guilty of pride?!

4 posted on 11/05/2007 1:27:01 PM PST by will of the people
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To: will of the people
He is identified thus by the writer of the blog. Intending, no doubt, to bring home to the reader the authority of the speaker.

This is not a self-appelation.

Moreover, this is not a title he has assumed for himself. Any holder of his office in the Vatican Curia assumes that title.

5 posted on 11/05/2007 1:34:32 PM PST by marshmallow
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To: will of the people

Were you under the impression he gave himself the title? ;-)


6 posted on 11/05/2007 1:34:55 PM PST by maryz
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To: maryz

Thanks for the ping! I saw this on another forum, and came right here to see if you had seen it! I want him to talk to OUR bishop and priests in the Greensburg, Pa Diocese!


7 posted on 11/05/2007 1:37:49 PM PST by sneakers (This Pennsylvania gal supports DUNCAN HUNTER for President!)
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To: Mike32
Thanks for the post -- I really like Damien Thompson (I just keep forgetting to check for his things!).

Understandably, he focuses on the English bishops -- but too many American ones are no prizes either. I wish he'd specifically mentioned those who say the MP only applies to other countries (not to mention any names) . . . well, maybe in his next broadside!

8 posted on 11/05/2007 1:39:10 PM PST by maryz
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To: sneakers

Maybe we could take up a collection to cover a trip to America for him — to a USCCB meeting perhaps! ;-)


9 posted on 11/05/2007 1:40:14 PM PST by maryz
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To: marshmallow

did they sneak up on him and confer it?


10 posted on 11/05/2007 1:40:58 PM PST by will of the people
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To: Mike32

Wow - that’s a fantastic article!


11 posted on 11/05/2007 1:41:04 PM PST by Patriotic1 (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am)
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To: maryz

Count me in! :-)

For the record, the people in my parish, as far as I can tell, STILL don’t even know about the Motu Proprio!


12 posted on 11/05/2007 1:44:07 PM PST by sneakers (This Pennsylvania gal supports DUNCAN HUNTER for President!)
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To: sneakers; Mike32

I went to a meeting sponsored by our very hostile bishop and our even more hostile “diocesan liturgy director” to discuss the MP and I was appalled at all the snickering and downright disrespect for the Pope that the anti-MP crowd expressed. Our bishop wasn’t present; and while I like him in some other areas (he’s a nice person and very pro-life), I think that if he’s going to defy the Pope, he should at least come out and do so personally.

He has done exactly what he was not supposed to do: he has imposed a limit. A parish must have at least 50 registered members requesting the Mass to get any consideration. Of course, one parish got 200 signatures, and they still didn’t get the mass because their pastor is opposed and the bishop will not help. And the Pope’s message said nothing about registered members. There are downtown parishes that have large “stable” (that is, regular) congregations where there are virtually no registered members, although the people who attend contribute and support them. There are other people who have other reasons for keeping their membership in a parish other than the one where they regularly attend mass, particularly weekday mass. So does this mean they can’t apply for the MP? According to our bishop it does.

The “stable” group will be addressed in the document to come out from Rome shortly, but bishops and priests like those in my diocese will just find another way around it, because they already consider themselves an independent church and this is just confirming it.


13 posted on 11/05/2007 1:58:22 PM PST by livius
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To: maryz
Holy Mass is sacrifice, gift, mystery, independently of the priest celebrating it. It is important, nay rather, fundamental that the priest step aside: the protagonist of the Mass is Christ. So I really don’t understand these Eucharistic celebrations turned into shows with dances, songs or applause, as frequently happens with the Novus Ordo."

"Listen, I don't need any encouragement, but my idea of heaven is a solid white night club, with me as the head liner, for all eternity . . . and they love me."

Fr. Dyer ticklin' them ivories in The Exorcist (1973)

14 posted on 11/05/2007 2:22:46 PM PST by Oratam (")
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To: Oratam
LOL! I never saw the movie, but that quote is just too apt!
15 posted on 11/05/2007 2:40:52 PM PST by maryz
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To: livius

“the Pope’s message said nothing about registered members...There are other people who have other reasons for keeping their membership in a parish other than the one where they regularly attend mass, particularly weekday mass. So does this mean they can’t apply for the MP? According to our bishop it does.”

The anticipated document from Ecclesia Dei is supposed to address this topic.

Be of good cheer; I suspect PCED will provide relief from these kinds of bishops who added layers of requirements to the Pope’s document.


16 posted on 11/05/2007 2:58:55 PM PST by Mike32
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17 posted on 11/05/2007 4:11:10 PM PST by Frank Sheed (Fr. V. R. Capodanno, Lt, USN, Catholic Chaplain. 3rd/5th, 1st Marine Div., FMF. MOH, posthumously.)
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18 posted on 11/05/2007 4:31:44 PM PST by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: maryz; Oratam
And the way he says it, I always wondered about him.

I hear he's still a priest at Fordham University.
19 posted on 11/05/2007 5:27:22 PM PST by Conservative til I die
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To: maryz

**Interview with Archbp. Ranjith: those who resist Summorum Pontificum guilty of the sin of pride**

I totally agree.

They are not ascribing to the oath of obedience to the Holy See that they took as priests and bishops.


20 posted on 11/05/2007 5:30:47 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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