[conservonator]

The funny thing is that a Catholic will agree that the church is the body of Christ and includes all believers, but it is also a discernible, visible organization that He established to preserve and spread the good news of salvation. It seems to me that the fullest understanding of what "church" is, is held by Catholics. Non-Catholics, excluding the Orthodox, lack a more complete understanding because they have to, by necessity, reject the singular organizational aspects of "church".

[DungeonMaster]

The funny thing is that a Catholic will agree that the church is the body of Christ and includes all believers, but it is also a discernible, visible organization that He established to preserve and spread the good news of salvation. It seems to me that the fullest understanding of what "church" is, is held by Catholics. Non-Catholics, excluding the Orthodox, lack a more complete understanding because they have to, by necessity, reject the singular organizational aspects of "church".

I looked up "visible church" in the concordance. Why do you suppose it isn't there? How much "organization" does the bible set forth? Don't even get me started on the whole priesthood thing which RC's embrace and which is not in the bible at all regarding the Church. Maybe we need to discuss where Marian doctrines came from. That usually highlights our differences, that is RCC and non RCC.