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Why Would a Baptist Church Hire an Accused Child Molester and Adulterer as Counselor?
News Release Wire ^ | February 3, 2007 | Don Boys, Ph.D.

Posted on 02/22/2007 5:19:40 AM PST by Alex Murphy

The first statement Pope Leo X made after being elected to the papacy, according to the Venetian ambassador, was “Now that God has given us the papacy, let us enjoy it.” That was the attitude of many Roman Catholic Popes, and on Oct. 31, 1517, Martin Luther picked up his hammer and nail and drove his point into the church door at Wittenberg and into the heart of the Roman Church. Then began the Reformation although there were stirrings of reform many years earlier with Wycliffe, Tyndale, Knox, Calvin, etc., who responded to Catholic heresy and gross immorality in the priesthood and monastic orders.

Dante wrote his Inferno shortly after 1308 and in the ninth (last) circle of hell he sees leaders who betrayed the trust of those whose care with which they were entrusted. Many priests, popes, and preachers were there. He had reason to abhor the immoral lifestyle of churchmen who betrayed the trust of their followers. In fact, there was so much sexual immorality in the early tenth century that for a period of about 60 years, the papacy was known as “The Pornocracy or Rule of the Harlots.”

Some Popes made their palaces (later the Vatican) little better than elegant whorehouses decorated with religious art and statuary in each room. Pope Benedict IX (who ruled in the 11th century) was the youngest and most immoral pope. A sincere and effective reformer, Peter Damian (who introduced flagellation into monastic life), described Benedict in his Liber Gomorrhianus as "feasting on immorality" and "a demon from hell in the disguise of a priest." He accused Benedict IX of routine homosexuality and bestiality. Few people will argue with that characterization of Benedict.

Bishop Benno of Placenta accused Benedict of “many vile adulteries and murders,” and Pope Victor III spoke of Benedict’s “rapes, murders and other unspeakable acts. His life as a Pope so vile, so foul, so execrable, that I shudder to think of it.” Evidently Benedict was a bad boy.

Pope John XII who ruled from 955 to 963 turned the Basilica di San Giovanni in Laterano into a brothel and “was accused of adultery, fornication, and incest” according to Patrologia Latina. A basilica was a Roman Catholic Church given ceremonial privileges by the Pope. But surely those “privileges” didn’t include making the church a bordello!

Baptists and Protestants have been very quick to chastise Roman Catholics for past and present sexual sins, yet too often excuse and cover their own. Roman Catholics (and other hierarchical) denominations have an easier time of covering up the sins of erring churchmen: they simply move the ordained moral leper in a clerical collar from Atlanta to Anchorage. Those church groups without a Church Boss have a more difficult time dealing with the sins of offending preachers. Now we have cases of celebrated pastors in Colorado, Texas, Florida, and Missouri who have been accused of sexual misconduct.

When a person walks into a modern church, it is often a roll of the dice between walking into a real church (and there are many out there) and walking into a bordello with an organ playing inspirational hymns. While that statement is an obvious hyperbole, the reality is that there is far too much illicit sexual activity in our churches that is being covered-up in many cases.

Before you put out a contract on me, consider the facts: Leadership magazine revealed that their 1992 study showed 37 percent of ministers confessed to having been involved in “inappropriate sexual behavior” with a church member! Please note that that percent was what was admitted! How bad is it in reality?

Now it has been revealed that an accused sexual predator was hired by the large and influential Trinity Baptist in Jacksonville. The predator “took a leave of absence” just before former pastor Dr. Bob Gray was arrested in May of 2006 and charged with sexual child abuse (having at least 21 accusers) and the case is now in the courts. The newly revealed predator is an impressive man who has had numerous accusations against him going back to 1977 in NC where he was the music director in an independent Baptist church. He was very talented and loved by all and was asked to also handle the young people. And handle them he did, especially the girls!

What a travesty when spiritual leaders betray their ordination vows, marriage vows and break criminal laws by taking advantage of innocent victims. Church leaders are to protect the sheep from preying wolves not pay wolves to ravage the sheep. Sexual predators should be in prison, not the pulpit.


TOPICS: Catholic; Evangelical Christian; Ministry/Outreach; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: adultery; baptist; moacb; molestation; sexabuse; sexualabuse

1 posted on 02/22/2007 5:19:42 AM PST by Alex Murphy
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To: Alex Murphy

Isn't it interesting that you do not see such melodramatic articles written about public education where the incidence of such crimes is much higher?


2 posted on 02/22/2007 5:31:40 AM PST by lonestar67 (Its time to withdraw from the War on Bush-- your side is hopelessly lost in a quagmire.)
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To: Alex Murphy
I get it. If you want to point out abuses in Protestant ministry, before you do so, you have to take a bunch of licks at Catholics just to show your bona fides.

My personal response is, yeah, it's an outrage. It also seems to be pretty popular and persistent. Taking good and effective steps to minimize such occurrences is one thing. Having a huge public display of the vapors is another. It seems to me that what we need is some folks who can look at the problem systematically and calmly. Eros seems to be part of the fuel of the Spiritual life. Christians who want to renounce the amateur status and go pro may have bunches of Eros. Somebody might need to see if that's determinable and then talk about ways to keep it within bounds.

But again, as the other poster notes, it's not clear if the clergy are more likely to commit these abominations than the populace in general ...

3 posted on 02/22/2007 5:46:56 AM PST by Mad Dawg ("Now we are all Massoud.")
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To: Alex Murphy

To me, the headline is misleading since he doesn't seem to propose an answer to that particularly provocative question.

It's more of an advisory to be on your guard. Good advice, but the headline promised something the article did not deliver.


4 posted on 02/22/2007 5:48:13 AM PST by siunevada (If we learn nothing from history, what's the point of having one? - Peggy Hill)
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To: Alex Murphy
Why Would a Baptist Church Hire an Accused Child Molester and Adulterer as Counselor?

Because the accused Ax-Murdering Transvestite wasn't available?

5 posted on 02/22/2007 6:14:16 AM PST by Reaganesque
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To: Reaganesque
Because the accused Ax-Murdering Transvestite wasn't available?

Good help is hard to find these days!

6 posted on 02/22/2007 6:34:55 AM PST by Alex Murphy
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To: Alex Murphy

Pope Leo X was a Medici. 'Nuff said. He was famous for his zoo.


7 posted on 02/22/2007 6:42:20 AM PST by Tax-chick (Every "choice" has a direct object.)
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To: Alex Murphy

Sex Abuse Spans Spectrum of Churches

Despite headlines focusing on the priest pedophile problem in the Roman Catholic Church, most American churches being hit with child sexual-abuse allegations are Protestant, and most of the alleged abusers are not clergy or staff, but church volunteers.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0405/p01s01-ussc.html

V's wife


8 posted on 02/22/2007 8:23:42 AM PST by ventana
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To: Tax-chick
He had a much celebrated elephant if I remember right.
9 posted on 02/22/2007 9:32:57 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum

That sounds right. Other African animals, as well. The Medici were very cultured :-).


10 posted on 02/22/2007 10:09:23 AM PST by Tax-chick (Every "choice" has a direct object.)
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To: Alex Murphy

"What a travesty when spiritual leaders betray their ordination vows..."

Yep. Like the article said, there are popes in there, and there is also the guy who "picked up his hammer and drove..."

After making a vow to God, he married a nun who he conveniently released of her vow.


11 posted on 02/22/2007 8:26:43 PM PST by sandhills
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To: Alex Murphy

It is hard to tell which the author hates the most, Baptists or Catholics.


12 posted on 02/22/2007 9:19:30 PM PST by Between the Lines (I am very cognizant of my fallibility, sinfulness, and other limitations. So should you.)
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To: Alex Murphy
You have posted part one of a two part story. Here you can read both parts: Now it has been revealed that an accused sexual predator was hired by the large and influential Trinity Baptist in Jacksonville.

Here is the irony of this article. Though the author rants about preventing sexual abuse in the church, he keeps the predator's name out of the article. Outing these sexual predators is our best defense that he will not be able to do it again.

The author in omitting the predator's name has committed a sin equal to that of the church he is admonishing.

13 posted on 02/22/2007 10:39:16 PM PST by Between the Lines (I am very cognizant of my fallibility, sinfulness, and other limitations. So should you.)
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