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Fr. John is asking us to pray the Te Deum. Something huge is about to go down!
1 posted on 10/25/2006 5:35:22 PM PDT by Frank Sheed
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To: NYer; Salvation; AnAmericanMother; Miss Marple; Tax-chick; sandyeggo; Knitting A Conundrum; ...

Something is going down according to Fr. Zuhlsdorf!


2 posted on 10/25/2006 5:37:34 PM PDT by Frank Sheed (Tá brón orainn. Níl Spáinnis againn anseo.)
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To: Frank Sheed

Of what nature is the news, in your opinion? Is it related to the Church, a world issue, a personal request? I am not familiar with Fr. John but prayed along with you all.


7 posted on 10/25/2006 5:55:43 PM PDT by Miss Didi
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To: Frank Sheed

All right, I'm praying!


16 posted on 10/25/2006 6:30:47 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: Frank Sheed

IBTZ


22 posted on 10/25/2006 6:48:34 PM PDT by osideplanner
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To: Frank Sheed; vox_freedom; murphE; nickcarraway

Forgive me for laughing, but this reminds me of people who rush into a room saying "I have AWESOME news!", everybody gets excited and then they say "but I can't tell you," LOL, and everybody goes nuts :-)

Sorry :-)

On a serious note, I've been thinking the upcoming traditional Feast of Christ the King (Sunday) would be a lovely time to reaffirm the Tridentine.


28 posted on 10/25/2006 7:39:24 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Frank Sheed

Frank, you will let us know when this all gets published, won't you?


35 posted on 10/25/2006 11:05:59 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Frank Sheed; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; ...

With much gratitude for Your gifts, O Lord!


39 posted on 10/26/2006 7:24:05 AM PDT by NYer (Apart from the cross, there is no other ladder by which we may get to Heaven. St. Rose of Lima)
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To: Frank Sheed
OK you got it! Prayers of Thanksgiving up!
40 posted on 10/26/2006 7:27:51 AM PDT by defconw (Gearing up for W2 in 08!)
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To: Frank Sheed
The prayer included in this article reminds me a bit of this one:

I believe in God, the Father Almighty, Creator of Heaven and earth
And in Jesus Christ, His only Son, our Lord;
Who was conceived by the Holy Ghost, born of the Virgin Mary,
Suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died, and was buried;
He descended into hell; on the third day He arose again from the dead;
He ascended into Heaven, and sitteth at the right hand of God the Father Almighty;
From thence He shall come to judge the living and the dead.
I believe in the Holy Ghost,
The Holy Catholic Church, the communion of saints, the forgiveness of sins,
The resurrection of the body, and life everlasting .

Amen.
41 posted on 10/26/2006 7:41:40 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Frank Sheed

Is he going to be off the hook? Are the charges being dropped?


46 posted on 10/26/2006 8:44:17 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. We will screw you inshallah)
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To: Frank Sheed
The clerics predict that by allowing broader use of the Tridentine rite, the papal document would "plunge us back into the liturgical life of another age."

Of course, going with the Novus Ordo kind of keeps us locked into 1970.

The Traditional Mass doesn't recall another age, but rather an epoch spanning well over a thousand years (the modifications made by Pope St. Pius V were minor compared to the variations even between various Novus Ordos).

Regarding the French Revolution. Gallicanism infected not only Napoleon but also the Post-Napoleonic royals. Read Robin Anderson's Pope Pius VII (TAN Books) for a lively account of the era.
59 posted on 10/26/2006 1:07:00 PM PDT by sittnick (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Frank Sheed

Well, it's never a bad thing to pray.

Peace, FRiend!


65 posted on 10/26/2006 2:49:59 PM PDT by airborne (If Democrats win in November, America will suffer.)
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To: Frank Sheed

Praying now.


81 posted on 10/26/2006 6:43:41 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (Politics ain't beanbag. Make it a Rovetember to remember)
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To: Frank Sheed

Who knows, this may have something to do with the SSPX?? We really don't know.


82 posted on 10/26/2006 7:02:18 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: All

The secret is revealed today....

http://wdtprs.com/blog/2006/10/about-pro-multis/#comments

About “pro multis”
CATEGORY: SESSIUNCULUM, WDTPRS, PRO MULTIS — Fr. John Zuhlsdorf @ 9:00 am

Since another blog has decided (perhaps imprudently) to publish something on it, and since it is already commented on by participants in this blog (for good or ill), here goes.

Three different well-placed sources I trust in Congregations here in Rome confirmed for me that the Holy Father made the determination that the words pro multis in the consecration of the Precious Blood will be properly translated, "for many", in the upcoming English text now in preparation. I had reason to be optimistic about this quite some time ago, but these confirmations go far beyond previous news.

Ever since Pope Paul VI, the Pontiff reserves to himself the approval of all sacramental forms in vernacular versions. Only Pope Benedict can make this decision.

WDTPRS has been hammering this for years, working as a lobby precisely for this, which is the single most important translation issue that had to be resolved. The WDTPRS articles have been used by members of the Vox Clara Committee, bandied about in Congregations, and even read by the Holy Father before his election. In the articles I urged readers to write respectful and brief letters about this issue to members of the Committee and prefects of Congregations. They did and I saw copies of their letters and the nice responses they received in return. The articles kept supplying ammunition during the war over the translation.

I see this as a real benchmark. Pope Benedict acts decisively once he has thought something through. He is interested in a new kind of dialogue, even ecumenical dialogue, based on accurate and forthright expressions of what we believe as a Church. The choice to say "for many" rather than "for all" indicates a serious shift of approach on many levels. It seems to me that the days of overly careful political correctness are done, at least in some spheres of the Church’s activity.

There may be some who do not find this news to be that big a thing. They might suggest that it does nothing for traditionalists who don’t want Mass in the vernacular anyway. To them I would say, first, that what is good for the whole Church is good for them. Holy Church is not to be reduced to the traditionalist minority, as important as it is in some respects. Clearly the traditionalists are not in the majority in the Church today. Thus, vernacular translations impact them more than they might think. The English language clearly dominates the world today. Since liturgical translations in other languages are undergoing revisions, they will be required to follow suit. Also, it is a unmistakable sign both that His Holiness is picking up speed in his work and that he is not content to maintain the status quo. He is making decisions with confidence.

It is necessary to continue with prayers for the Holy Father and with raising thanks to God for this important move on his part. We all know that it ain’t over ‘till it’s over. When I see some instrument of promulgation and the Holy Father’s signature, I will finally relax. Nevertheless I am very happy about this news.


111 posted on 10/28/2006 8:17:43 AM PDT by Frank Sheed (Tá brón orainn. Níl Spáinnis againn anseo.)
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