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Fighting Back Halloween, Protest Blasphemous and Disgraceful Portrayals of the Priesthood
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Posted on 10/20/2006 1:47:04 PM PDT by Coleus

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To: Alex Murphy

There are many, many more priests who are and have been faithful to their vows and who work tirelessly for their parishes than there are priests who have been a scandal for the Church.

To generalize all priests in this way is to do a disservice to those who are faithful and it also distorts the truth.


21 posted on 10/20/2006 11:49:38 PM PDT by Running On Empty
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To: newgeezer

Just your opinion, of course. And yes, my mileage does vary.

I have no doubt that this sort of sleazy merchandise would appear on the scene, regardless of the unfortunate cases which have victimized the good priests, who largely outnumber the fallen ones.

Sleaze is sleaze, with are without "cover-ups" as an excuse for merchandizing it. And nuns and priests have been ridiculed for as long as I can remember--which is a long time.

Bad parents don't mean that all parents are bad.
Bad kids don't mean all kids are bad.
Bad policemen don't mean all policemen are bad.
And bad priests don't mean all priests are bad.


22 posted on 10/20/2006 11:59:22 PM PDT by Running On Empty
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To: Coleus

How odd.

When I change some of the links to google which are presented in this topic from being Catholic-themed "costume" to "islamic costume" or "jihadist costume", suddenly no halloween costumes are presented. I wonder why that may be??


23 posted on 10/21/2006 12:14:24 AM PDT by Zetman (I believe the children are the next generation.)
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To: AnAmericanMother

You did not address the question of stewardship. As you stated one can get anything on the internet. Do you purchase clothes in Abercrombie and Fitch? Teens love Victoria"s Secret. I am quite aware of just how hard it is to be counter cultural. We homeschool.


24 posted on 10/21/2006 6:17:18 AM PDT by Bainbridge
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Their bottom line is going to be completely unaffected by one t-shirt. They make their money off regular customers, not somebody who's made one purchase in 25 years because they had an item nobody else had.

Spencer's has always been a borderline trashy "novelty" store, about the only reason anybody decent would go in there is for a gag gift (you put the gloss on 'gag' that you like.)

I used to buy from A&F back when they were a real outdoor store, in NYC and later in Atlanta. Had the opportunity to meet the great professional hunter Peter Capstick at an autograph session (we all went out for a beer, the crowd was pretty thin. A&F was losing the flyfishing and hunting crowd even then.) Haven't darkened the door since their switch to soft porn. I do have this really cool A&F knockoff shirt though:

Victoria's Secret I would have about as much use for as bosoms on an owl -- I'm a horsey, doggy, tomboy sort of person, my tastes run to Ariat boots and a good dove coat . . . my daughter doesn't care for it either, we all buy our underpinnings at Target.

25 posted on 10/21/2006 6:35:52 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: AnAmericanMother

I have never seen anything directly intended to insult Muslims at a Spencers. Granted plenty of their merchandise would provoke an uproar, but they do not go out of their way insult Muslims the way they attack Christians or Jews.


26 posted on 10/21/2006 8:57:35 AM PDT by mockingbyrd (Good heavens! What women these Christians have-----Libanus)
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To: Running On Empty; Alex Murphy
And bad priests don't mean all priests are bad.

ROE, no one even so much as implied all your priests are bad. If anyone is painting with a broad brush, it's you.

I see little or no reason to defend the indefensible. That includes the coverups as well as the predators.

27 posted on 10/21/2006 2:05:12 PM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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I see little or no reason to defend the indefensible. That includes the coverups as well as the predators.

And who do you see doing that? I think all Catholic freepers are disgusted by the whole affair; none of us are "defending the indefensible".

We are defending the good and holy priests we know, men who have given their life to serve God's people. They no more deserve to be trashed along with the molesters than your minister deserves to be trashed because Jimmy Swaggart was caught with a prostitute.

28 posted on 10/21/2006 2:23:41 PM PDT by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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Thanks, Campion.

I am familiar with the methodology of repeated references to predatory/pedophile priests. Whether it's contrived or not begs the question; it still achieves the same concept: priest=bad.

I'm ready for the priest=good.

I've been privileged to know so many, many good ones--men who have been awesome examples.


29 posted on 10/21/2006 2:39:47 PM PDT by Running On Empty
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To: BipolarBob

I'm not Catholic either, but am repelled by this. Yeah, some Catholics do bad stuff, just like in any religion. I can't subscribe to the churches doctrines, but this is beyond disgusting and totally unacceptable.


30 posted on 10/21/2006 8:44:04 PM PDT by Shimmer128 (My beloved is mine and I am his. Song of Solomon 2:16)
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To: 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; annalex; ...

Click here to protest now!
Costume Intolerance Unmasked

All it takes is polite determination. The American TFP’s latest protest proves once again that protests can and do work when people get involved. The American TFP web site organized an email and phone protest to participating stores and web sites manifesting “disgust and vehement protest” for a portrayal “offensive to all Catholics who hold the Catholic priesthood and all religious in utmost esteem.”

Successful Protest
Upon hearing from consumers, many managers immediately took the costumes off their shelves and websites. Others were not as cooperative. Among those respecting Catholic beliefs was Spencer Gifts, a major distributor, which pulled the costume from its selection and website and apparently sent an order to its stores to pull it from selections. Spirit Halloween is also not selling it on their website.

SHOP.COM, an Internet shopping mall with over 1, 000 shops, took notice of the protest and removed the costume from its site. “If you see items like this in the future amongst the 1000 stores on our site, please notify us,” the manager said in an email. After a complaint, one mall manager asked the manager of a recently opened Halloween store to take action and “was very accommodating in removing the items mentioned.” Others who have talked to managers report similar success.

Toleration not Tolerated
While some have respected their Catholic consumers by pulling the blasphemous costume from their stocks, others are far from accommodating. Protesters who have expressed themselves politely to distributors have been dismayed by some responses that have offended and personally attack those exercising their right to protest. One particular distributor found the irreverent costume “funny” and even called protesters “followers of Satan.” Blatant attacks on the Catholic Church left no doubt where the distributor stood.

Such is typical of a kind of liberalism that proclaims intolerance in the name of tolerance. When any evil is opposed, those defending any Christian values are called “intolerant” toward those who are intolerant. In the case of these Halloween costumes, one should call it what it is: Intolerance unmasked. Many have already pulled the item. Our protests have met with success! It is not too late to send another protest to those who are still carrying and listing the costume by sending an e-protest to those still selling the “Happy Priest” costume and its companion “Pregnant Nun” portrayal.

You can still voice your rejection of this insult to the priesthood and the religious. Here is all you have to do!

1. Pray for the Success of this campaign
2. Email this page to all your friends.
3. Click here and send an instant protest email.

31 posted on 10/27/2006 6:52:41 PM PDT by Coleus (Woe unto him that call evil good and good evil"-- Isaiah 5:20-21)
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To: Coleus

Sounds like something out of an Aristocrat's costume ball or a Carnival celebration of 300 years ago. Amazing, however, how Halloween has gone from a kiddie holiday to a day of debauchery.


32 posted on 10/27/2006 7:02:43 PM PDT by Clemenza (I have such a raging clue!)
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