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To: dollars_for_dogma
Let's see if you can get "the plain language of" John 6:53-57 right...

John 6:53-57 How's that?

Matthew 26:26-29

Mark 14:22-25

Luke 22:17-20

I don't really understand what your point here is....but, it is obvious the Passover symbolism is being changed from that of a slaughtered lamb, in the temple, on the 14th of Nisan to that of our Saviour being sacrificed for us in its stead. The bread and the wine, being symbolic, as his body and his blood.

The Apostle Paul clarifies it further in 1 Corinthians 5:7-8 where he says Christ is our new Passover and let us continue to keep the feast....which he and the Apostles did. In fact they continued to keep the Passover until it was finally outlawed by the Roman Church/State in the fourth century.

Our Saviour was crucified at about 3:00 p.m. on the 14th of Nisan as the lambs were being slaughtered in the temple. It was the Day of preparation and this was the Sabbath I spoke of in an earlier post that is mentioned in Mark 16:1. Your Magesterium is confused about that because they think that the Sabbath is the weekly Sabbath and hence the incorrect story to all of you folks.

Here is some information on the early Fathers still celebrating Passover well into the second century. As you can see it is the Roman Church that has it all wrong. I'm sure they had a magesterium of sorts then also.

49 posted on 07/27/2006 9:29:18 PM PDT by Diego1618
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To: Diego1618
The bread and the wine, being symbolic, as his body and his blood.

The bread and the wine, being symbolic?

In John 6:53-59 the Lord says to his followers to "eat my flesh and drink my blood" again and again...

...in John 6:60 the disciples grumble "This is a hard saying; who can listen to it?" (symbolic?)

....John 6:61 Jesus says, "Do you take offense at this?" (symbolism?)

John 6:65 Jesus says, "This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless it is granted him by the Father." (symbolism?)

John 6:66...After this many of His disciples drew back and no longer went about with him (because he was speaking symbolically?).

When one is losing their audience (over mere symbolism), why is there no attempt by our Lord to reassure His disciples he was speaking symbolically?

Then there is 1 Corinthians 11:27-30...

"Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of profaning the body and blood of the Lord."

"For anyone who eats and drinks without discerning the body eats and drinks damnation upon himself."

Eternal damnation for profaning a symbolic 'body and blood'?
54 posted on 07/27/2006 10:51:41 PM PDT by dollars_for_dogma
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