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To: P-Marlowe; where HE leads me; Alex Murphy; Alamo-Girl; Larry Lucido; xzins; blue-duncan

"For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. (Exodus 20:8-11 KJV) "

Sorry, but this classic "proof-texting" doesn't work, here's why:

Exodus 20:11 is often held up as undeniable proof of 24-hour creation days. If that is true, what of Leviticus 25:1-4, which uses the creation week pattern in terms of years? Apparently the creation week is used as a pattern of “one out of seven” in both cases, not a real-time reference. A similar type of pattern is the eight day “Feast of the Tabernacles” in Leviticus 23:33-36. It celebrated God’s protection in the desert that lasted forty years — obviously eight days is not a one-to-one correlation with forty years. Moses authored both of these verses, which adds further strength to this conclusion.


"As far as the flood goes, again you are relying upon ancillary documents and evidence to prove your point."

No, I'm relying on the original Hebrew texts. How is that ancillary? They seem to be the original source to me.


There's a difference between quoting scripture and reading what it actually states.




66 posted on 05/30/2006 1:24:39 PM PDT by truthfinder9
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To: truthfinder9
"For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. (Exodus 20:8-11 KJV) "

Do you believe that, or not? Yes or no?

69 posted on 05/30/2006 1:29:27 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (((172 * 3.141592653589793238462) / 180) * 10 = 30.0196631)
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To: truthfinder9
Exodus 20:11 is often held up as undeniable proof of 24-hour creation days. If that is true, what of Leviticus 25:1-4, which uses the creation week pattern in terms of years? Apparently the creation week is used as a pattern of “one out of seven” in both cases, not a real-time reference. A similar type of pattern is the eight day “Feast of the Tabernacles” in Leviticus 23:33-36. It celebrated God’s protection in the desert that lasted forty years — obviously eight days is not a one-to-one correlation with forty years. Moses authored both of these verses, which adds further strength to this conclusion.

At first I thought you were capable of making a cogent argument until I realized that you lifted that statement (without acknowledgement) from Here.

Earlier you posted a series of statements that you apparently lifted from Here. And you have the nerve to tell me I don't have the ability to think for myself (that I'm just a parrot for Ken Ham) when you are running all over this board posting quotes from other people and pretending (or at least leaving the impression) that they are your own?

Have you stated anything on this thread that is your own original thought? Do you have anything to say that hasn't already been said by one of those to whom you blindly follow?

73 posted on 05/30/2006 1:55:18 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (((172 * 3.141592653589793238462) / 180) * 10 = 30.0196631)
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To: truthfinder9; P-Marlowe; where HE leads me; Alex Murphy; Alamo-Girl; Larry Lucido; xzins
"There's a difference between quoting scripture and reading what it actually states"

And there is a difference between reading scripture and understanding it. Seven is used in scripture as the symbol of completion, perfection (seven seals, seven trumpets seven vials etc). You compare apples and oranges when you try to make days equal months equal years unless the scriptures tell us to in the particular instance, like when the Children of Israel go into exile for seventy years to fulfill the sabbath years they had ignored.

Further, the account of a six day creation in Exodus 20 is consistent with the Genesis record of creation and no where in scripture is the time of creation other than six days. The Exodus account is the Law and it uses the same Hebrew word for day that God used in Genesis. If He meant a different time period the Law would have been specific since He was going to provide a double portion of manna for the seventh day. If the Genesis day and the Exodus day were other than the usual sundown to sundown a lot of manna would fall on the sixth day.
77 posted on 05/30/2006 2:10:55 PM PDT by blue-duncan
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To: truthfinder9
Apparently the creation week is used as a pattern of “one out of seven” in both cases, not a real-time reference.

The genesis account, not only refers to days, it refers to "evening and morning" in describing each day. All subsequent passages referring to creation speak of days, not periods or ages. The concept of ages occurs in scripture, and would have been used if it applied. Creation is used as the foundation for other patterns. To reverse that order is nothing short of twisting scriptures.

87 posted on 05/30/2006 4:38:53 PM PDT by aimhigh
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