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1 posted on 05/06/2006 7:04:50 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
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And I believe these scholars because...


173 posted on 05/06/2006 5:10:15 PM PDT by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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"Prof. Ehrman began his academic career as a fundamentalist and evangelical who took the Bible as literal truth. Now, he sees the Bible as "a very human book with very human points of view, many of which differ from one another, and none of which offers an inerrant guide to how we should live."

Well yippee, yippee yay for you, Proffy. Guess what, you is gonna be a might sorry, come Judgement Day...


176 posted on 05/06/2006 5:14:08 PM PDT by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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To: DelphiUser; Utah Girl; Logophile; Grig

Interesting mainstream read!


179 posted on 05/06/2006 6:27:18 PM PDT by restornu (Elevate Your Thoughts!)
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To: canuck_conservative

What did he have to say about the OT?


180 posted on 05/06/2006 6:33:40 PM PDT by restornu (Elevate Your Thoughts!)
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Chaple Hill has a reputation as a lefty school!

Principal Areas of Research Interest: New Testament Interpretation; History of Ancient Christianity (first three centuries), especially Orthodoxy and Heresy, Formation of the Canon, NT Manuscript Tradition, Historical Jesus, and Apostolic Fathers;

Secondary Areas of Interest: Jewish-Christian Relations in Antiquity; Greco-Roman Religions; Christianization of the Roman World.

Bart Ehrman is the James A. Gray Distinguished Professor and Chair of the Department of Religious Studies at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. He came to UNC in 1988, after four years of teaching at Rutgers University.

Prof. Ehrman completed his M.Div. and Ph.D. degrees at Princeton Seminary, where his 1985 doctoral dissertation was awarded magna cum laude. Since then he has published extensively in the fields of New Testament and Early Christianity, having written or edited nineteen books, numerous articles, and dozens of book reviews. Among his most recent books are a college-level textbook on the New Testament, two anthologies of early Christian writings, a study of the historical Jesus as an apocalyptic prophet (Oxford Univesity Press), and a Greek-English Edition of the Apostolic Fathers for the Loeb Classical Library (Harvard University Press).

Prof. Ehrman has served as President of the Southeast Region of the Society of Biblical literature, chair of the New Testament textual criticism section of the Society, book review editor of the Journal of Biblical Literature, and editor of the monograph series The New Testament in the Greek Fathers (Scholars Press). He currently serves as co-editor of the series New Testament Tools and Studies (E. J. Brill) and on several other editorial boards for monographs in the field.

Winner of numerous university awards and grants, Prof. Ehrman is the recipient of the 1993 UNC Undergraduate Student Teaching Award, the 1994 Phillip and Ruth Hettleman Prize for Artistic and Scholarly Achievement, and the Bowman and Gordon Gray Award for excellence in teaching.

181 posted on 05/06/2006 6:44:05 PM PDT by restornu (Elevate Your Thoughts!)
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To: canuck_conservative
Some of the Dead Sea Scroll Translations available:

Location of Cave 1 at Qumran

 

Directory to the Dead Sea Scrolls Collection:

Introduction: The Story of the Scrolls
Texts from the Dead Sea Scrolls
Timetable of Dead Sea Scroll Scholarship
Resources for Further Study
Recommended Books

 

Return to:
Gnostic Society Library
Gnosis Archive

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Available in the Bookstore:

The Dead Sea Scrolls - in several different editions

 

The Dead Sea Scrolls  by M. Wise

 

The Dead Sea Scrolls Translated  by F. Martinez

 

The Complete Dead Sea Scrolls,  by G. Vermes

THE GNOSTIC SOCIETY LIBRARY

The Community Rule Scroll -- one of the seven original scrolls, attributed to an Essene community

DEAD SEA SCROLLS:  TEXTS


Introduction to the Texts..

Working from many thousands of scroll fragments recovered in eleven caves near Qumran, researches have identified approximately 800 different original manuscripts.  A few scrolls were fairly intact when found, others have been tentatively pieced together, still more exist only as small scraps of parchment.  The preserved portions of a scroll often give only glimpses of what might have existed in the complete text.  (See the Introduction to the collection for more background information.)

DSS texts are identified by a number and letter combination, indicating the cave from which they were recovered: "1Q" indicates the text was found in Qumran cave 1; "4Q" means found in Qumran cave 4.  This initial code is followed by either a second number (the catalog file number assigned to each fragment as it was  archived) or by a few letters that abbreviate an alternative name given to a fragment by researchers, usually the supposed title of the text.  Many important scrolls existed in more than one copy. Surviving pieces of these were sometimes found in different caves.  For example, the section of text from the Book of Secrets (listed below), is reconstructed from fragment 27 found in Qumran Cave 1 (1Q27) and fragments 299-301 of a different copy found in Qumran Cave 4 (4Q299-301). 

A variety of literary forms can be identified among the surviving texts. Although there is no generally accepted system of categorizing the scrolls, roughly speaking the manuscripts fall into one or more of the following genres:  Biblical texts, pentateuchal stories and commentaries; legal and ritual texts; prophets stories and commentaries; psalms and poetry; wisdom literature; prophecy and apocalyptics (visions); sectarian literature; and "miscellaneous things that don't fit anywhere else".  Some texts can be assigned to several categories, depending on the subjective reading of the interpreter, which is why no system works very well. The great variety manifest in DSS texts has led some scholars to question whether a single sect at Qumran would have created or maintained such an apparently eclectic collection.

Visit the Bookstore for a complete listing of current editions of the complete Dead Sea Scrolls in tranlation.


Texts Archived in the Gnostic Society Library

This is a varied collection of short texts, representative of several types of DSS literature. One will note several unique mythical motifs developed in the DSS manuscripts, as well as imaginative or visionary reworking of traditional themes.  Study of the DSS has given new understanding of how dynamic and heterodox Judaism was in the intertestamental period.

The Divine Throne Chariot

The Book of Secrets (1Q27, 4Q299-301)

The Thanksgiving Psalms (1QHa)

The Parable of the Bountiful Tree (4Q302a)

A Baptismal Liturgy (4Q414)

The Coming of Melchizedek (11Q13)

Tongues of Fire (1Q29, 4Q376)

The Book of Giants (4Q203, 1Q23, 2Q26, 4Q530-532, 6Q8)


Texts Accompanying a Lecture by Vermes, Schiffman and Tov

This series (The Dead Sea Scrolls with Rachel Kohn) was sponsored by the Australian Broadcasting Corporation in 2000.  The texts presented are accompanied by photographs of the original scroll fragment, a translation and a short commentary.  (Note that the commentaries are representative of traditional views about the DSS and their source in an Essene community living at Qumran.)

Psalms 11Q5 Contains parts of 41 Biblical psalms, Apocryphal psalms (including the Apostrophe to Zion) and prose about the psalms written by King David.

The Nahum Commentary 4Q169 Prophetic commentary which alludes to the history of a sect, presumed to be the Qumran Essenes, and names real historic figures.

Community Rule 4Q260 Also known as The Manual of Discipline, it contains rules ordering the life of the sect presumed to have lived at Qumran and identified as Essenes by traditional interpreters of the DSS..

Acts of Torah 4Q394 Excerpt from a unique document in letter format, which outlines the religious laws peculiar to the sect, and in opposition to the law practiced by the Temple in Jerusalem.

War Rule 11Q14 An original composition attributed to the Essene sect by traditional interpreters of the scrolls, containing what may be a vision of the "end of days"

Exodus Fragment 4Q22 A fragment of Exodus 6:25-7:19


Texts Presented in the Library of Congress Exhibit

The Dead Sea Scroll Exhibit at the Library of Congress included translations and high-quality photographs of selected sections of several scrolls.  Each is accompanied by a short commentary,   a complete physical description of the scroll or fragment, and a list of references.

Psalms Tehillim

Phylactery Tefillin

The Community Rule Serkeh ha-Yahad

Calendrical Document Mishmarot

Some Torah Precepts Miqsat Ma`ase ha-Torah

Enoch Hanokh

Hosea Commentary Pesher Hoshe`a

Prayer for King Jonathan Tefillah li-Shlomo shel Yonatan ha-Melekh

Leviticus Va-Yikrah

Songs of the Sabbath Sacrifice Shirot `Olat ha-Shabbat

Damascus Document Brit Damesek

The War Rule Serekh ha-Milhamah


Complete Scholarly Translations of Scroll Texts with Commentary

Great Isaiah Scroll (Fred Miller) -- This site presents the most impressive internet presentation of a complete scroll from the DSS. While the site offers little of interest to a casual reader, it gives glimpses into the issues involved in the analysis and translation of a scroll. It includes black & white plates of each column of The Great Isaiah Scroll (one of the first seven scrolls found in Cave 1, and the oldest extant Hebrew biblical manuscript), along with detailed notes on the physical condition of the manuscript and comparison of its orthography and  wording with the standard Masoretic text. The technical discussions of the site are obviously intended for scholars familiar with Hebrew.

Fragments of the Book of Enoch from Qumran Cave 7 (Ernest Muro) Again, a site of limited general interest.  It is dedicated to the detailed analysis of a tiny scroll fragment in Greek, once  argued (inaccurately, it appears) to be from a New Testament text. (Of course, the presence of a Christian text in the DSS find would have supported the original efforts to link the Qumran texts with Christian history; this tiny fragment of Greek text therefore became a focus of debate.) This site illustrates the complex task of reconstructing, identifying and then interpreting DSS fragments. It includes photos of the fragment with transcription and translation, as well as two articles (by E. Muro & E. Puech) refuting claims that these are fragments of New Testament texts.


Paraphrases and Descriptions of Texts

These useful paraphrases and descriptions of a large variety of DSS texts were apparently a student project for "Introduction to the Hebrew Scriptures", a course given at St. Joseph's University by Alan Humm

Pentateuchal stories and commentaries
Reworked Pentateuch (4QPPa=4Q158).
Genesis Apocryphon
Exhortation based on the Flood (4QFloodAp=4Q370).
Vision of Jacob (4QAJa=4Q537).

Legal and ritual texts
Ritual Purity Laws (4QTohorota=4Q274).

Psalms, Hymns, Poetry
Apocryphal Psalms (4QPsf=4Q88, 4QapPs=4Q448, 11QPsa-b=11Q5-6).
Thanksgiving Hymns #7 & 8 (1QH(odayot)a col.10).

Wisdom Literature
Wisdom Text (1Q26, 4QWisda)
Collecton of Proverbs (4QWisd).
Wiles of the Wicked Woman (4Q184).

Prophecy and Apocalyptic
The Chosen One (4Qelect, 4QarNC).
Words of Michael (4Qmich, 6Qunidar).

Miscellaneous Texts
The New Jerusalem (1QJNar, 2QExc, 4QJMa, 5QJNar, 11QJN).
The Copper Scroll (3QTreasurea).
Physiognomic Horoscopes (4QCryptic-4Q186, 4QPhysiogn).
Observances (4QCal (Mishmarot), 4QMMTa).
Targum of Job (4QtgJob, 11QtgJob).


Inventory of the Dead Sea Scrolls Manuscripts

A comprehensive and useful Inventory of all the Dead Sea Scroll Manuscripts has been compiled by Mitchell A. Hoselton.

 

The Dead Sea Scrolls Collection at The Gnostic Society Library

| Introduction | Texts | Timetable | Resources | Recommended Books |

| Gnostic Society Library | Gnosis Archive |

185 posted on 05/06/2006 7:37:00 PM PDT by TaxRelief (Wal-Mart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
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To: canuck_conservative

In the year 2006, whenever you see the words "scholars now say" preceeding a comment about Christianity, it's safe to disregard everything that follows.


194 posted on 05/06/2006 10:24:31 PM PDT by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)
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In fact, many of our modern Bibles are based on the wrong originals, says Bart Ehrman in his best-selling book Misquoting Jesus: The Story behind who Changed the Bible and Why. Even our beloved King James version has several segments based on a 12th-century manuscript that scholars now say was one of the most error-riddled in the history of the New Testament.

Aaah, let me guess. Bart and crew have found the absolute real versions. And it supports, coincidently, every point where he disagrees with Church teaching. Wow, amazing. (with sarcasm)

To date, 5,700 Greek manuscripts of the New Testament have been discovered, the earliest a tiny fragment of John 18 written around 120 CE. Including the 10,000 Latin Vulgate versions, and the thousands in other languages, we have between 200,000 and 400,000 variants of the New Testament today.

Oh, yes, this champion for the Bible can't refer to the year 120 as AD, in reference to the Jesus whose words he's claiming to want to properly quote. Just the bland 'Common Era'.

239 posted on 05/09/2006 7:11:10 AM PDT by fortunecookie
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