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[bannie]

I believe that King James mulled it around in his own fashion.

(Waits for the flames...)

[AmishDude]

I suggest that you do what I did. Look it up on your own. Consult any source you like. (Non-gnostic, however, they tend to be even more dishonest than the usual skeptic.)

[tenn2005]

From what I've heard, there was NO contemporary account of Christ's words - the earliest New Testament Gospel was written about 100 years after his death (presumably passed down orally until then - and we all know the problem about passing stories ...)

Jesus Died in AD30.

Approximate dates of Gospels

Luke AD60

Mark AD62

Matthew AD60's

John AD80's

[Amelia]

I also have not read any of Ehrman's books. He may or may not have been an advocate of the Gnostic gospels, he may have just been reporting what he knew because that is what he does for a living. However, the producers of the show I watched definitely portrayed him as sympathetic.

Here is an article that quotes Ehrman on the matter of The DaVinci Code and Mary Magdalene.

According to this article, he says much of what is portrayed in the book is purely fiction, and seems to say that a lot of what is in the Gnostic gospels about Jesus & Mary Magdalene is also fiction.

[madison10]

Matthew and Mark were written before 70 A.D. as was the Acts of the Apostles.

Ye be 30 years off. ;)

[jude24]

It's not a lie of James White. The truth is far more complex than the likes of Riplinger and Ruckman comprehend. They assume that the KJV is the gold-standard by which all subsequent translations should be judged without an adequate basis for enthroning the AV in such a position. They ignore the theoretical basis for conserervative textual criticism, close their eyes to the facts, and pick the so-called Textus Receptus, seemingly oblivious that the Textus Recptus is a sixteenth century eclectic text that made textual decisions just as much as the Nestle-Aland 27th Greek text. The KJV only movement assumes that conservative textual critics "changed" the text because of some conspiracy to strip Jesus of His Deity or some such bull----, incapable of understanding that textual critics have a very good proposed mechanism that explains the rise of textual variants. Riplinger can only say its an eeeeeevil conspiracy of New Agers and eeeeevil Papists.

I have yet to see an erudite, well-thought out KJV-only argument that addresses the basics of conservative textual criticism - and I would be in the position to see them. I myself briefly held the KJV-only position as a young man.

[madison10]

How about that the transformation of the word Passover to Ishtar oh I mean Easter?

Where did you get that nonsense? No one transferred "Passover" to "Easter." Easter is most likely the Roman title for a spring holiday, but many Christians are now calling that holiday Resurrection Sunday. BTW, the egg idea probably came from the roasted egg used in the Seder.

[jude24]

those who are convinced that they have been let in one some celestial secret because they memorized Romans,and that the rest of us are doomed to die an unspeakable death and subsequent torment because we didn't.

I am unaware of any sect in Christendom that believes memorization of the Bible is a precondition for salvation.

[Cvengr]

If anyone needs a bible translator, a free help source is available. Check with your Holy Spirit.

Worth repeating. For those who doubt that sound advise, Don't take our word for it, take God's and let Him do all the work.

[Just mythoughts]

"Where did you get that nonsense? No one transferred "Passover" to "Easter." Easter is most likely the Roman title for a spring holiday, but many Christians are now calling that holiday Resurrection Sunday. BTW, the egg idea probably came from the roasted egg used in the Seder."

NONSENSE? That word found in the modern day EASTER is not the original Greek word. It is Passover and passover was the feast observed at the time by Christ and His disciples. It was man's tradition that got that word change to Easter as it is not the original word used.

[madison10]

"Where did you get that nonsense? No one transferred "Passover" to "Easter." Easter is most likely the Roman title for a spring holiday, but many Christians are now calling that holiday Resurrection Sunday. BTW, the egg idea probably came from the roasted egg used in the Seder."

NONSENSE? That word found in the modern day EASTER is not the original Greek word. It is Passover and Passover was the feast observed at the time by Christ and His disciples. It was man's tradition that got that word change to Easter as it is not the original word used.

It was "nonsense" the way you worded it. We Christians celebrate the Resurrection of Christ on "Easter Sunday." There was no reason for Jesus and His disciples to celebrate "Easter," the Resurrection any sooner, as it hadn't HAPPENED YET!

[Wombat101]

I was not referring to any doctrinal postulate of any particular sect or denomination, only an attitude prevalent amongst some individuals.

See what happens when you take things too literally? (/sarc)

[Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin]

And I believe these scholars because...

[Just mythoughts]

Ah you think the Savior had no clue what would be taking place after His death? Paul said to observe the Passover not Easter, ICorinthians 5:7-8. Paul called Christ our Passover not our Sunday egg-rolling Easter bunny!!!!!!!

[Calm_Cool_and_Elected]

Thanks for the link. If I can find info on the program, I'll post it.

CC&E

[Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin]

"Prof. Ehrman began his academic career as a fundamentalist and evangelical who took the Bible as literal truth. Now, he sees the Bible as "a very human book with very human points of view, many of which differ from one another, and none of which offers an inerrant guide to how we should live."

Well yippee, yippee yay for you, Proffy. Guess what, you is gonna be a might sorry, come Judgement Day...

[Uri’el-2012]

Jmt>How about that the transformation of the word Passover to Ishtar oh I mean Easter?

m10> Where did you get that nonsense? No one transferred "Passover" to "Easter."
Easter is most likely the Roman title for a spring holiday, but many
Christians are now calling that holiday Resurrection Sunday.
BTW, the egg idea probably came from the roasted egg used in the Seder.

167 posted on 05/06/2006 5:51:05 PM MDT by madison10

ON THE KEEPING OF EASTER.

From the Letter of the Emperor to all those not present at the Council.
(Found in Eusebius, Vita Const., Lib. iii., 18-20.)

When the question relative to the sacred festival of Easter arose, it was
universally thought that it would be convenient that all should keep the
feast on one day; for what could be more beautiful and more desirable,
than to see this festival, through which we receive the hope of
immortality, celebrated by all with one accord, and in the same
manner? It was declared to be particularly unworthy for this, the
holiest of all festivals, to follow the custom [the calculation] of the
Jews, who had soiled their hands with the most fearful of crimes, and
whose minds were blinded. In rejecting their custom,(1) we may
transmit to our descendants the legitimate mode of celebrating Easter,
which we have observed from the time of the Saviour's Passion to the
present day[according to the day of the week]. We ought not,
therefore, to have anything in common with the Jews, for the Saviour
has shown us another way; our worship follows a more legitimate and
more convenient course(the order of the days of the week); and
consequently, in unanimously adopting this mode, we desire, dearest
brethren, to separate ourselves from the detestable company of the
Jews, for it is truly shameful for us to hear them boast that without
their direction we could not keep this feast. How can they be in the
right, they who, after the death of the Saviour, have no longer been led
by reason but by wild violence, as their delusion may urge them? They
do not possess the truth in this Easter question; for, in their blindness
and repugnance to all improvements, they frequently celebrate two
passovers in the same year. We could not imitate those who are openly
in error. How, then, could we follow these Jews, who are most
certainly blinded by error? for to celebrate the passover twice in one
year is totally inadmissible. But even if this were not so, it would still
be your duty not to tarnish your soul by communications with such
wicked people[the Jews]. Besides, consider well, that in such an
important matter, and on a subject of such great solemnity, there ought
not to be any division. Our Saviour has left us only one festal day of
our redemption, that is to say, of his holy passion, and he desired[to
establish] only one Catholic Church. Think, then, how unseemly it is,
that on the same day some should be fasting whilst others are seated
at a banquet; and that after Easter, some should be rejoicing at feasts,
whilst others are still observing a strict fast. For this reason, a Divine
Providence wills that this custom should be rectified and regulated in a
uniform way; and everyone, I hope, will agree upon this point. As, on
the one hand, it is our duty not to have anything in common with the
murderers of our Lord; and as, on the other, the custom now followed
by the Churches of the West, of the South, and of
the North, and by some of those of the East, is the most acceptable, it
has appeared good to all; and I have been guarantee for your consent,
that you would accept it with joy, as it is followed at Rome, in Africa,
in all Italy, Egypt, Spain, Gaul, Britain, Libya, in all Achaia, and in the
dioceses of Asia, of Pontus, and Cilicia. You should consider not only
that the number of churches in these provinces make a majority, but
also that it is right to demand what our reason approves, and that we
should have nothing in common with the Jews. To sum up in few
words: By the unanimous judgment of all, it has been decided that the
most holy festival of Easter should be everywhere celebrated on one
and the same day, and it is not seemly that in so holy a thing there
should be any division. As this is the state of the case, accept joyfully
the divine favour, and this truly divine command; for all which takes
place in assemblies of the bishops ought to be regarded as proceeding
from the will of God. Make known to your brethren what has been
decreed, keep this most holy day according to the prescribed mode; we
can thus celebrate this holy Easter day at the same time, if it is granted
me, as I desire, to unite myself with you; we can rejoice together,
seeing that the divine power has made use of our instrumentality for
destroying the evil designs of the devil, and thus causing faith, peace,
and unity to flourish amongst us. May God graciously protect you, my
beloved brethren.

from DOCUMENTS FROM THE FIRST COUNCIL OF NICEA [THE FIRST ECUMENICAL COUNCIL] A.D. 325

This is the Decree from the first Pontiff of the Roman church to all the world.

Emperor Constantine, Emperor of the Roman Empire

He had issued an Edict making Sunday the day of rest

In 321 CE, while a Pagan sun-worshiper, the Emperor Constantine
declared that Sunday was to be a day of rest throughout the Roman Empire:

"On the venerable day of the Sun let the magistrates and people residing in cities rest,
and let all workshops be closed. In the country however persons engaged in agriculture
may freely and lawfully continue their pursuits because it often happens that another day
is not suitable for gain-sowing or vine planting; lest by neglecting the proper moment
for such operations the bounty of heaven should be lost."

Council of Laodicea circa 364 CE ordered that religious observances were
to be conducted on Sunday, not Saturday. Sunday became the new Sabbath.

They ruled: "Christians shall not Judaize and be idle on Saturday, but shall work on that day."

b'shem Y'shua

[Amelia]

Thanks! I wanted to watch the program, but already had plans for that evening...I'm sure they will repeat it, if they haven't already...

[restornu]

Interesting mainstream read!

[restornu]

What did he have to say about the OT?