Typos. Blunders. Mine.
1 posted on
04/18/2006 5:04:44 AM PDT by
Teófilo
To: Salvation; NYer; Nihil Obstat; Kolokotronis; FormerLib
2 posted on
04/18/2006 5:05:55 AM PDT by
Teófilo
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To: Teófilo
It reads like someone REALLY hated to see Jesus where He was, as the Son of God, the Lamb of God. That was simply too much to believe and too much to allow others to believe.
It seemed to be so well written that perhaps it was the work of several learned people whose gave themselves the task of diminishing Jesus with as much enthusiam as possible and with all the tools available to them.
3 posted on
04/18/2006 6:36:09 AM PDT by
starfish923
(Socrates: It's never right to do wrong.)
To: Teófilo
This "gospel", along with Thomas, is too strange and inrecosilable with the accepted writings to be taken seriously. It does make me wonder what all of the various now discarded and destroyed early writing were like.
4 posted on
04/18/2006 6:43:33 AM PDT by
Unassuaged
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To: Teófilo
Next Easter, we'll probably be treated to the Gospel of Herod, then the Gospel of Pontious, ....
5 posted on
04/18/2006 7:23:53 AM PDT by
aimhigh
To: Teófilo
So basically what we know is that the true "early christians" were right when they did not include this gnostic trash in the canon.
In fact - why would they? They had already been sharing the true gospels for nearly 2 centuries.
We already know this gospel of Judas was known to Ignatius -who rejected it as heresy.
so...we in the 21st century would like to pretend we know more than those more directly connected to the actual events...but we dont't.
7 posted on
04/18/2006 7:28:08 AM PDT by
Scotswife
To: Teófilo
Wow - excellent article. Thanks for posting it!
8 posted on
04/18/2006 8:24:39 AM PDT by
Alex Murphy
(Colossians 4:5)
To: restornu
Ping, because you've shown interest in non-canonical texts (Dead Sea Scrolls, etc) in the past...
9 posted on
04/18/2006 8:27:45 AM PDT by
Alex Murphy
(Colossians 4:5)
To: Teófilo
"I don't think that the text of the gospel of Judas is referring to the customary blessing given during Jewish seder or Passover meals, which is the type of the Christian Eucharist and the primary occasion of Christ's Last Supper. First, because the blessing or motzi is not the central act of the Jewish Passover meal, but the retelling of the Exodus deliverance story or maggid. What set apart the Last Supper from the seder is precisely the centrality of Jesus' eukaristos or thanksgiving, by which He offered himself up to the Father as the Lamb of the New Covenant. Since then, the term eukaristia has had a very specific meaning to Christians. This is precisely what the Apostles are doing and what Judas' "Jesus" reproved as misguided act of worship to a false "god"!"
Wait a minute - since this was to have accurred before the last supper, how could the apostles have been conducting a christian eucharist, since Jesus first conducted it there?
Maybe he was moking whatever they were doing.
11 posted on
04/18/2006 9:00:15 AM PDT by
patton
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