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To: ItsOurTimeNow
I suppose the same could be said for any two opposing viewpoints. That's what makes the free exchange of ideas so much fun.

Except when one of the sides is based on the idea that nothing one does can possibly matter -- and that's what the "no free will" aspects of the hyper-Calvinist position basically boil down to. (See the endless FR threads if you doubt me....)

19 posted on 01/13/2006 10:18:41 AM PST by r9etb
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To: r9etb

>>Except when one of the sides is based on the idea that nothing one does can possibly matter -- and that's what the "no free will" aspects of the hyper-Calvinist position basically boil down to<<

I think you're just seeing the premise incorrectly, and with different definitions.

The concept of Free Will is largely a myth, but the basic premise is that while we decide on a particular course of action, the results of that action have already been pre-determined. Most notably in the case of salvation, but less notably in the seemingly mundane aspects of human life.

We may think we plan our steps, but the Lord determines where they fall and how successful they are, if at all. That's what His Sovereignty is all about.

We may decide to commit a certain sin, but the act of committing the sin, as well as teh repurcussions of it, are already known to God. To say otherwise would limit his omniscience and omnipotence.

Quite the contrary, what we do DOES matter, when viewed in the life of sin, salvation, and repentence.


20 posted on 01/13/2006 10:29:40 AM PST by ItsOurTimeNow ("Hail Him who saved you by His grace, and crown Him Lord of All")
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