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To: EequalsMC2

This would be one problem I have with the Catholic thinking....that it is up to the Vatican to "rehabiltate" and "forgive" Judas. Just a 'lil gesture to show remorse for past anti-semiticism?

Especially when over the centuries there have been so many Catholics who have been made to feel guilt over the sin and exclusion from heaven (not to mention being denied burial in hallowed ground) of their loved ones who committed suicide ... without even throwing in the betrayal of Jesus. Are they all going to be rehabbed and re-buried too?

Ironically, wasn't Judas be the only apostle who died Jewish .... and not Catholic?


19 posted on 01/12/2006 8:47:41 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: silverleaf
This would be one problem I have with the Catholic thinking....that it is up to the Vatican to "rehabiltate" and "forgive" Judas. Just a 'lil gesture to show remorse for past anti-semiticism?

I do not believe it is up to any mere man to rehab or forgive anyone, of course. But many Catholics need the Vatican for guidance - not necessarily a good thing. My interest in the subject however, bypassed Vatican thought. The Judas "situation" affects me in a most personal way.

Especially when over the centuries there have been so many Catholics who have been made to feel guilt over the sin and exclusion from heaven (not to mention being denied burial in hallowed ground) of their loved ones who committed suicide ... without even throwing in the betrayal of Jesus. Are they all going to be rehabbed and re-buried too?

That most personal way being a beloved brother who committed suicide. It was not him. I must believe that. How could God condemn someone who is not themselves in the depths of despair?

Ironically, wasn't Judas be the only apostle who died Jewish .... and not Catholic?

I'm not sure. I've always believed that "religion" was mans invention.

24 posted on 01/12/2006 9:06:36 AM PST by EequalsMC2
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To: silverleaf

Never rely on the MSM to report religious news, especially concerning the Catholic Church or Evangelical Protestant ones. Most likey what was under discussion was a study paper intended for theologians and other scholars. In no way would such a paper be binding on anyone.
Monsigners, priests, cardinals and anyone can theorize and speculate all they want. But that is all that it will remain speculation.


175 posted on 01/13/2006 2:19:17 AM PST by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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