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Ouch. I'm 100% in the indult camp and even I have to admit Fr. Cekada is wiping the floor with Ferrara.
1 posted on 09/15/2005 4:25:55 AM PDT by GratianGasparri
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teaching of the theologian Father Sylvester Berry...

* Interesting. I did not know theologians had authority to teach. :)

In any event, it was funny to read Cekada deconstruct the camp of clowns and their legal mouthpiece.

Sedevacantism has been similarly deconstructed but reading one headless horseman unhorsing another headless horseman is entertaining :)

2 posted on 09/15/2005 5:23:28 AM PDT by bornacatholic
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Well, you get it because you are Catholic :)

I'll post a link that rapidly deconstructs the sede loopyness. There is no need to cite this or that theologian and his personal opinions. Unless baptized and adopted by the Church, in Ecumenical Councils, Papal Encyclicals, Bishops teaching this in union with the Pope and agreed with by the laity - Sensus Fidei ..etc the personal opinions by theologians are just that, personal opinions.

All these headless horseman droping road apples all over the place are befouling the faithful :)

Prayer is the only remedy for these headless horseman.

3 posted on 09/15/2005 5:41:55 AM PDT by bornacatholic
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I'm 100% in the indult camp and even I have to admit Fr. Cekada is wiping the floor with Ferrara.

Yeah, I agree.

5 posted on 09/15/2005 5:58:21 AM PDT by gbcdoj (Let us ask the Lord with tears, that according to his will so he would shew his mercy to us Jud 8:17)
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Good article. Now is there one that deals with the anti-papists that are sitting in the pews next to me at the Novus Ordo?


6 posted on 09/15/2005 6:06:07 AM PDT by TradicalRC (Benedicamus Domino.)
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I disgree. No pope was made out of cardboard. Seriously, folks. IT'S CARDBOARD.


7 posted on 09/15/2005 7:10:31 AM PDT by costsvcrep (pas de cardboard, s'il vous plait)
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Cekada suffers from the same intellectual flaw that the neo-Catholics suffer from; the fact that the Pope can err on many issues including discipline in the Church.

According to both Cekada and the average Neo Cath. No Catholic can discern right from wrong without a direct message from the Pope. At that point there is no point to learning the faith since discernment is tossed out the window.

I first noticed this when the group over at Envoy used to say that the sedes were the most consistently logical of the traditionalists. They spoke glowingly of them.

The reason for this is they both rest on the same faulty premise. One papal bull from one Pope does not make a dogma. Especially one that has no apostolic tradition.
The sedes are more logical than the "Emperor's new clothes" attitude of the Neos but those are simply subjective conclusions on the same faulty premise. "The Pope said it, it must be correct." or, "He said it, and it's wrong, so he can't be the Pope."

Silly.


9 posted on 09/15/2005 2:01:41 PM PDT by Gerard.P (The lips of liberals drip with honey while their hands drip with blood--Bishop Williamson)
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The Sedevacantists are a sick, sad, pathetic joke. The Big T Traditional Schismatists aren't far behind.


10 posted on 09/15/2005 5:24:35 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: GratianGasparri; Salvation; murphE; thor76

Fr. Cekada,...And those with him in his thought s on the Popes ...Are in My opinion WRONG-They give God no credit -They take away the reasining for right and wrong and pretend they are BETTER then anyone ,especially saying they could do a "better JOB' If theywere Pope in these challenging days in the Catholioc Church over these past 40 yrs.
The Pope reings-and if he does things)which it seems he has) that are contrary to the Dogmas,Commandments,Doctrines of all the past Popes and saints -them we are asked by Our Lady of La Salette to PRAY FOR THE POPE! We may NOT FOLLOW in the error,like dumb sheep into a pit,but give it all to God who is always in FULL KNOWLEDGE of what is happening in His Church.
"Rome will lose the FAITH"..MAry said. Pray for the Pope,MAry said..Why no specific dates or times??? ASK MARY. WHo Are we to say who has faults and sins and we are any better!!!! PRAY and not follow the errors-Give God the CREDIT DUE ,free will ,is each ones even the Popes,they can be strict,wimpy,wishy washy, or FAITHFUL..they must work for their virtues just like the rest of us.


29 posted on 09/16/2005 7:36:02 AM PDT by Rosary (Pray the rosary daily,wear the Brown scapular)
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So--when does the Great Schism begin?

I'm all ready here with a big bowl of popcorn and a couple of bottles of Heineken.


61 posted on 09/25/2005 6:15:38 PM PDT by Palladin (America! America! God shed His grace on Thee.)
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