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To: livius
A very tiny percentage was in favor of radical changes - yet somehow, he points out, only three years later, this tiny group of "liturgical leftists" somehow got through a program for sweeping changes that were much more dramatic than anybody had expected.

I mentioned on another thread that I recall reading (30 years ago maybe?) that the leftists had their agenda all planned out and started pushing it through while those bishops without an agenda "were still finding their seats and brushing up their Latin."

BTW, where did people find those "12-minute" Masses? I was in high school when the changes started coming in, but went to a lot of pre-VII daily Masses in jr high; they usually lasted at least half an hour; a 25-minute Mass was considered speedy!

18 posted on 04/14/2005 7:05:26 AM PDT by maryz
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To: maryz

The 12 minute Masses were a particular feature of big urban churches, especially downtown churches where people would come for speedy Masses at noontime. They were sloppily said but they "counted." Another thing that was clearly an abuse was that many people skipped the Mass altogether - they would come flying down the aisle just in time to drop down in front of the altar rail and take Communion, and then they would fly right out again.


25 posted on 04/14/2005 7:41:07 AM PDT by livius
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To: maryz

What you recall is a book called "The Rhine Flows into the Tiber," by a pseudonym priest, Fr. Xavier Rynne (sp?)


35 posted on 04/14/2005 7:56:51 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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