Posted on 02/28/2005 5:27:26 PM PST by TheTruthess
God causes the rain to fall on the good and the bad alike.
But, if you have a neighborhood association that can vote to accept or reject new neighbors, would you vote for or against a convicted sex offender who wanted to move into your neighborhood?
The prophets of Baal seem to have been every bit as sincere as as Elijah. Yet God refused to hear their prayers, and heard Elijah instead.
There is such a thing as identity theft. Suppose someone finds John Smith of Poplar Lane in Suburbantown, Wisconsin's Social Security number, and uses it to get credit cards, fake ID, and so on. There's only one person with that name, SS#, address, relatives, and so on. I wonder is our indifferentist would like to try arguing in court that the fact that there's only one John Smith of Poplar Lane means that false John Smiths are impossible, making the defendant just as much John Smith as John Smith.
Ah... Well, most Jews I know would have that position as well! Though I've heard of "messianic Jews", who are apparently ethnic (?) Jews that have converted to Christianity. Never met one in person, however.
I don't follow at all, but I would abstain from voting.
What about the everyday, average follower of baal, the one's that knew no better, did none of them ever have their prayers answered?
According to Romans 1, they all knew or should have known better.
I don't believe everything I read. What do you think?
There is much in the bible that is good, but I don't believe all of it.
No.
Most Messianic jew congregations are composed mostly of gentiles who have discovered the "messianic roots" of Christianity. Only around 10% of Messianics are "ethnic" Jews.
Would I be right in taking this as the answer to, "Do you believe everything you read which is presented as truth"?
And if so, by not believing it, you mean that you regard it as false, correct?
Just because I do not regard something as being true, does not mean I believe it to be false...it means that I do not know, and it is probably something that I realise cannot be proven either way....like a belief.
Got to gonow, will try to be back tonite, thanks
so you would be just fine with a convicted sex offender living in your association?
I wouldn't.
Let's say it came to your attention that the convicted sex offender was still actively sex offending. Would you be OK with him just continuing that in some neighborhood, or would you prefer he be put in jail?
Is there anything you regard as simply false? If you read that the Earth is flat, would you think it's false, or would you be agnostic about it?
And are you saying that no belief can ever "be proven either way"?
I did not say I would be fine with it, I said I would abstain from voting. Why put words in my replies, that are not there? I would abstain from voting because if he were going to live there, and an association was voting on it, then it would be safe to assume that he has been reformed. I would abstain, because I would not want to chance offending my fellow association members, and I also believe that he deserves a place to live.
Your second scenario, is completely different. Of course I would want him in jail, don't be ridiculous.
I would believe it to be false, because I have been around it, and it can be proven.
Most beliefs cannot be proven, especially when discussing religion, that is why faith is required. I'm sure you'll be able to find something though, that can be proven.
First, sex offenders do not have to be reformed, they simply have to have served out their sentences. Next, I'm glad you'd send them to prison rather than allow them in. God does the same.
So you would read something presented as true, and reject it as false; you regard what you read as a counterfeit or false truth just as Christians regard the Muslim god as a counterfeit, which is to say false, god. And if you're right (as you would be in the case of the shape of the Earth) then it is. But there is only one truth, just as there is only one God. If your case from #4 onward is correct, it seems you have the same problem with "false truths" that we have with "false gods".
I have no idea what you said.
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