[Grey Ghost II]

Lefebvre and Company were excommunicated for the crime of schism.

He was never excommunicated. The pope, incorrectly, declared that he had excommunicated himself.

[Sean O L]

He was never excommunicated. The pope, incorrectly, declared that he had excommunicated himself.

This is a case of denial of facts which are self-evident.

There are relevant documents on the case:

Some Documents on the Case

1. 1988, May 5 - PROTOCOL OF AGREEMENT between Cardinal Ratzinger and Archbishop Lefebvre

2. 1988, July 1 - DECREE OF EXCOMMUNICATION

3. 1988, July 2 - "ECCLESIA DEI" - Apostolic Letter of John Paul II

4. 1993, June 28 - USA APOSTOLIC NUNCIATURE to Mrs. PATRICIA MORLEY

5. 1995, Sept. 27 - "ECCLESIA DEI" Pontifical Commission's Msgr Camille Perl Reply to Scott Windsor

6. 1996, Aug. 24 - THE PONTIFICAL COUNCIL FOR THE INTERPRETATION OF LEGISLATIVE TEXTS On The Excommunication of Followers of Archbishop Lefebvre

7. 1996, Oct. 31 - Responses from THE PONTIFICAL CONGREGATION OF BISHOPS, and THE PONTIFICAL COUNCIL FOR THE INTERPRETATION OF LEGISLATIVE TEXTS

8. 1998, Oct. 27 - "ECCLESIA DEI" Pontifical Commission's Msgr Camille Perl Reply to F. John Loughnan

9. 2002, Aug. 14 - "ECCLESIA DEI" Pontifical Commission's Msgr Camille Perl Reply to unknown person [1]

10. 2002, Apr. 15 - "ECCLESIA DEI" Pontifical Commission's Msgr Camille Perl Reply to unknown person [2]

11. 2002, Sept. 27 - "ECCLESIA DEI" Pontifical Commission's Msgr Camille Perl Second Reply to unknown person [1]

12. 2003, Jan. 18 - "ECCLESIA DEI" Pontifical Commission's Msgr Camille Perl Communicated to Una Voce America - being a follow up to that of Sept. 27, 2002

The actual Decree of Excomunication is as follows:

Quote:
DECREE OF EXCOMMUNICATION

From the Office of the Congregation for Bishops, 1 July 1988

Monsignor Marcel Lefebvre, Archbishop-Bishop Emeritus of Tulle, notwithstanding the formal canonical warning of 17 June last and the repeated appeals to desist from his intention, has performed a scismatical act by the episcopal consecration of four priests, without pontifical mandate and contrary to the will of the Supreme Pontiff, and has therefore incurred the penalty envisaged by Canon 1364, paragraph 1, and Canon 1382 of the Code of Canon Law.

Having taken account of all the juridical effects, I declare that the above-mentioned Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, and Bernard Fellay, Bernard Tissier de Mallerais, Richard Williamson and Alfonso de Galarreta have incurred ipso facto excommunication latae sententiae reserved to the Apostolic See.

Moreover, I declare that Monsignor Antonio de Castro Mayer, Bishop emeritus of Campos, since he took part directly in the liturgical celebration as co-consecrator and adhered publicly to the schismatical act, has incurred excommunication latae sentientae as envisaged by Canon 1364, paragraph 1.

The priests and faithful are warned not to support the schism of Archbishop Lefebvre, otherwise they shall incur ipso facto the very grave penalty of excommunication.

From the Office of the Congregation for Bishops, 1 July 1988.

BERNARDINUS Card. GANTIN
Prefect of the Congregation for Bishops

("ipso facto" - by the fact or the act itself)

Source: http://www.latin-mass.org/excommunication.html

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The Excommunication for the crime of schism was authorized by the Supreme Pontiff, who is the Supreme Legislator, and the Supreme Interpreter of the Law.

YOU say "He was never excommunicated. The pope, incorrectly, declared that he had excommunicated himself."

Hmmmmmmmm! So, Habemus Papem, eh? Papa Grey Ghost11 !