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To: topcat54
Topcat54,
The bride of Chrit is perfect in His eyes, not because of some "inner healing", but only because of what He has done for us. We are already righteous. There is nothing more beautiful than that.
I agree... I believe that what is being 'cleaned' is the country itself... it is being cleansed of enemy strongholds.

These modern day prophets should be avoided like the plague.
However, I think you are wrong to make a statement like this.
1. Prophecy should not be confused with a word of knowledge or other manifestations of the Holy Spirit.
2. Prophecy is intended for the unbeliever, while revelations like this are intended for the Body of Christ.
3. You should know better than to speak against the Body of Christ... even if your spirit does not witness to the authenticity of what has been said, it is not for you to make statements like this.
4. While my theology on certain doctrins may not agree with other's, my spirit DOES witness to the authenticity of many of these visions/words of knowledge/etc. I have YET to hear any specific prophecy issued other than what is in the Bible.
152 posted on 11/09/2004 9:10:41 AM PST by Safrguns
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To: Safrguns

Goodness!

A voice of balance, reason and sanity!

Wonderful!


156 posted on 11/09/2004 9:15:40 AM PST by Quix (PRAY 4 PRES BUSH'S SAFETY; SPECTER OFF COMMITTEE; TROOPS; GOD'S PROTECTION)
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To: Safrguns; Quix; Gamecock
I agree... I believe that what is being 'cleaned' is the country itself... it is being cleansed of enemy strongholds.

Why is this surprising? Jesus has been on His throne for 2000 years subduing His enemies. He is the one given "all authority over heaven and earth".

Knowing the Scriptures one should expect the gospel to advance and have a positive impact on the world. It's just a matter of time.

1. Prophecy should not be confused with a word of knowledge or other manifestations of the Holy Spirit.

One of the problems with the "word of knowledge" concept is that there is very little in the Bible about the gift (only mentioned in 1 Cor. 12:8) and folks today have managed to turn it into a cottage industry. I suspect we have little information in the Bible because the gift, like tongues, etc, passed away with the last of the apostles.

The way it's often used by modern prophets to avoid the sticky issue of 1) having their words regarded as the very Word of God (like real prophets in the Bible), ans 2) giving them an out in case their "word of knowledge" fails them.

2. Prophecy is intended for the unbeliever, while revelations like this are intended for the Body of Christ.

False. Prophecy was given as a gift to the Church, for the benefit of the Church (1 Cor. 14:4). Today we call all this apostolic information "the Bible".

3. You should know better than to speak against the Body of Christ ...

The body of Christ, the Church, is a big thing. But there are frauds in the Church. Jesus, Peter, and Paul all warned against them (cf. Acts 20). They ought to be exposed for what they are. The bad hair guys on TBN are not infallible popes. We ought not treat them as such.

4. While my theology on certain doctrins may not agree with other's, my spirit DOES witness to the authenticity of many of these visions/words of knowledge/etc.

Well, mine doesn't. Does that make you more spiritual than me, or me more spiritual than you?

169 posted on 11/09/2004 10:03:17 AM PST by topcat54
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