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Lambeth Report Will Be Disasterous For Aanglican Pansexualists
Virtuosity ^ | Sept. 3, 2004 | David W. Virtue

Posted on 09/05/2004 7:07:46 PM PDT by sauerkraut

LAMBETH REPORT WILL BE DISASTROUS FOR ANGLICAN PANSEXUALISTS Anglican Communion will be reshaped. Anglican Communion Office to close

Special Report

By David W. Virtue

9/3/2004

The Lambeth/Eames Commission's report is going to have teeth; it will be disastrous for the Anglican Communion's pansexualists; there will be some kind of "formal suspension" of The Episcopal Church, following which there will be a radical restructuring of the Anglican Communion that could see the dissolution of the Anglican Communion Office in London because of its ultra-liberal pro-Western stance.

The Queen has apparently made it clear to Dr. Rowan Williams that she will not permit the break up of the Anglican Communion over the gay issue, and that Williams must do everything to see that the orthodox are not "penalized" for their views, sources in London told Virtuosity.

Virtuosity was told that Dr. Williams has made it clear that he will come down on the side of unity and will not risk losing the orthodox wing of the church.

The Anglican Communion will not break up Virtuosity was told, but the liberals, including the Episcopal Church's Presiding Bishop Frank Griswold are "living in complete denial" about what is going to happen to them, said the source.

Two sources made it clear to Virtuosity that the Lambeth/Eames Commission "will have teeth," it will not be an "Anglican fudge" and it will be "disastrous for the church's gays." If the communion does break up it will be only because the orthodox choose to leave, said the source.

Religion Correspondent for the London Times, Ruth Gledhill likened the new structure to the equivalent of a "federation" modeled along the lines of the Lutheran Church Federation.

Another analogy is that the shape of the communion will be like a wheel with the Archbishop of Canterbury at the center; the provinces of the Anglican Communion will be like the spokes with the rim being the four symbols of unity, "but the rim will disappear", said the source.

"The Anglican Communion Office will disappear because it has been funded by the American Episcopal Church and they will withdraw its funding," said a liberal source. It will also cease to be relevant to the shape of the new Communion, Virtuosity was told.

A source close to the Commission told Virtuosity said that the choice is between the vibrant, burgeoning church of the Global South or a declining liberal Western Church, and this is a no-brainer for the Archbishop who holds liberal views of his own.

The Lambeth Commission is under extreme pressure to find a solution to the Communion's struggles, and to resolve the crisis they are meeting in Windsor next week on Monday through Friday rather than Tuesday through Thursday.

What is truly needed is for the ECUSA and the leaders of the Anglican Church of Canada to repent and remove V. Gene Robinson and for Griswold to publicly and honestly admit that when he signed the declaration at Lambeth and proceeded to carry out the actions he had signed to oppose, to say so and repent, said another source.

The idea of a complete and total exclusion of the ECUSA from the worldwide body is not likely to happen, but temporary measures will be imposed in order for the Episcopal Church and Griswold to repent of his actions.

If that does not happen, more serious action will be taken.

The commission, chaired by Dr Robin Eames, Archbishop of Armagh and Primate of Ireland, is made up of representatives of both the conservative, liberal and catholic wings of the Anglican Church from both the West and the Global South.

Bitter fighting has been going on in the Episcopal Church since the consecration of V. Gene Robinson the homoerotic Bishop of New Hampshire, with more than a dozen Primates having declared themselves in either impaired or broken communion with the Episcopal Church.

The Nigerian Church will shortly send a bishop to the U.S. and is already planting new evangelical Anglican churches on American shores. A number of orthodox Primates have already taken several Episcopal Churches under their protection in response to the crisis.

Any idea of a common body of canon law that all provinces would adhere to is long term and unlikely as it would mean the Episcopal Church would have to give up the Dennis Canon and its exclusive take on the Canons and Constitutions. That, it would seem, is unlikely to happen.

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TOPICS: Current Events; Mainline Protestant; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: anglican; anglicanism; ecusa; lambethreport
Just a Lutheran trying to pick up the slack for ahadams2.
1 posted on 09/05/2004 7:07:47 PM PDT by sauerkraut
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To: sauerkraut

Thanks for the post. This is interesting and encouraging.


2 posted on 09/05/2004 7:18:15 PM PDT by TheGeezer
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To: sauerkraut

God bless you!

Arlin and I corresponded quite a bit about how the Anglican crisis is prelude to what awaits the ELCA next year. I cringe at the Lutheran World Federation model suggestion because that structure does not allow for the possibility of oversight from orthodox Lutheran churches, such as those in Tanzania. And Mark "Bill Clinton-in-an-alb" Hanson serving as LWF president renders the possibility of assistance from a higher body just about nil.


3 posted on 09/05/2004 7:36:24 PM PDT by lightman
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To: sauerkraut
V. Gene Robinson the homoerotic Bishop of New Hampshire

This is probably the first time in the history of the english language that those words have been put together in that order. I'm guessing they were going for "homosexual" but for some reason ended up with "homoerotic", not a word usually associated with bishops of whatever orientation.

4 posted on 09/05/2004 7:45:49 PM PDT by garbanzo (Free people will set the course of history)
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I think a magazine or video can be homoerotic, but not a Bishop. Homosexual, yes, unless the Queen has her way.

My guess is that Bishop Robinson will resign for the sake of the unity of the Communion. As an Episcopalian, I hope he does.

5 posted on 09/05/2004 8:29:00 PM PDT by megatherium
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To: megatherium
Homosexual, yes, unless the Queen has her way.

It wasn't clear from the article what the Queen's opinion on gay bishops is...anyone know?

6 posted on 09/05/2004 8:32:19 PM PDT by garbanzo (Free people will set the course of history)
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To: sauerkraut

Thank you. Do you have his ping list?


7 posted on 09/05/2004 8:47:15 PM PDT by ken5050 (Bill Clinton has just signed to be the national spokesman for Hummer..)
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To: garbanzo

The Queen is a conservative lifelong Anglican and is thought to have conservative views. Although she is the titular head of the Church of England (and worldwide Anglicans), she plays a background role in CofE politics and doesn't show her hand often. She has a great deal to lose if the worldwide Anglican church breaks up over gay ordinations, so it doesn't surprise me that she's finally put her foot down with the Archbishop of Canterbury over the issue.


8 posted on 09/05/2004 8:49:54 PM PDT by plushaye (President Bush - Four more years! Thanks Swifties.)
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To: lightman

What's NOT stated here is the impact this ruling will have on the many lawsuits now starting in the system over attempts by ECUSA bishops to take back the buildings and assets of parishes which have left..


9 posted on 09/05/2004 9:25:02 PM PDT by ken5050 (Bill Clinton has just signed to be the national spokesman for Hummer..)
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To: megatherium
My guess is that Bishop Robinson will resign for the sake of the unity of the Communion.

My guess is that V. Gene Robinson believes that God wants him to be a Bishop and will withstand any call to resign from anyone on Earth.

As an Episcopalian, I hope he does.

Me too. But I highly doubt it.

10 posted on 09/06/2004 7:37:13 PM PDT by RonF
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To: RonF
Jeffrey Johns had the decency to stand down from nomination for the sake of the unity of the Church. Robinson cannot see beyond his own needs/wants/agenda. He is the epitome of American narcissistic self-centeredness, exhibit number one of the incurvates in se of sin.
11 posted on 09/06/2004 7:52:30 PM PDT by lightman
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To: lightman

True 'dat. However, if my recollection is correct, Jeffrey Johns was asked to step down from said nomination by those in his Church's hierarchy. Do you think that the ECUSA hierarchy is likely to do the same with Bp. Robinson?


12 posted on 09/07/2004 6:35:05 AM PDT by RonF
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To: sauerkraut
Thanks, sauerkraut.

The Anglican Communion will not break up Virtuosity was told, but the liberals, including the Episcopal Church's Presiding Bishop Frank Griswold are "living in complete denial" about what is going to happen to them, said the source.

That's what ahdams2 always said, (in poor paraphrasing) that Griswold & Co. are basically living in their own little world. That they thought they could get away with it, and can't face reality.

What is truly needed is for the ECUSA and the leaders of the Anglican Church of Canada to repent and remove V. Gene Robinson and for Griswold to publicly and honestly admit that when he signed the declaration at Lambeth and proceeded to carry out the actions he had signed to oppose, to say so and repent, said another source.

I wonder what odds Arlin would have given on that issue.

13 posted on 09/07/2004 8:36:33 AM PDT by xJones
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To: megatherium

Dream on...Vicky Gene Robinson is an egocentric of the first rank who will never, I repeat, never resign. I'm quite sure he prefers to be "thrown out" so he can spend the rest of his days as a martyr to the gay agenda and pull down hefty honorariums for lectures on his martyrdom.

This man is despicable. Don't expect him to do anything "noble." It's not in his nature.


14 posted on 09/07/2004 9:32:49 PM PDT by torqemada ("Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!")
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