Atheism Kills

7/17/04 | Dr. Brian Kopp

[Polycarp IV]

ATHEISM KILLS.

Here's why atheism is always eventually demonic in its fury against its own ctizens:

The atheist is the consummate iconoclast.

iconoclast.

Main Entry: icon·o·clast
Pronunciation: -"klast
Function: noun
Etymology: Medieval Latin iconoclastes, from Middle Greek eikonoklastEs, literally, image destroyer, from Greek eikono- + klan to break -- more at CLAST
1 : one who destroys religious images or opposes their veneration
2 : one who attacks settled beliefs or institutions
- icon·o·clas·tic /(")I-"kä-n&-'klas-tik/ adjective
- icon·o·clas·ti·cal·ly /-ti-k(&-)lE/ adverb

When Atheism becomes the driving force in government, it starts by marginalizing religion and religious, and seeks to remove images of God from the public.

After its iconoclasm has eliminated all images of God, it goes after all mention of God in the culture, till religion has become only a private affair, never mentioned outside the chapel, church, or synagogue.

Eventually, the iconoclasm of the atheistically driven culture and/or government will no longer tolerate even the presence of the chapel, church, or synagogue, destroying them or converting them to serve state purposes.

The remaining faithful are driven underground, only to be persecuted, arrested, tortured, murdered.

Unfortunately, after the iconoclasm of atheism has rid the culture of all public and private images of God and vestiges of belief, atheism realizes that millions of images of God still exist:

in the eyes of the innocent the image of the Creator is still visible.

At which point atheism, with demonic fury, reveals itself for what it truly is: Demonic. And atheism the kills with a fury that can only be called demonic:

Atheism always kills the innocent, eventually. It is the only way for atheism to destroy all images of God on earth.

The proof is in the numbers...atheistic regimes have killed hundreds of millions of innocents over the last hundred years.

Men are far safer in Christian, Jewish, and even Muslim cultures than in any atheistic culture known to history.

That's right: The atheism we have already seen is far more dangerous than any mythical loathsome theocracy the mainstream media and pop culture uses to marginalize believers.

[Polycarp IV]

Unfortunately, after the iconoclasm of atheism has rid the culture of all public and private images of God and vestiges of belief, atheism realizes that millions of images of God still exist:

in the eyes of the innocent the image of the Creator is still visible.

[Polycarp IV]

Just some thoughts that have run through my mind for several years...thought I'd put them together.

[narses]

Good job.

[Servant of the 9]

The atheist is the consummate iconoclast.

Protestants are the consumate Iconoclasts, withess the vandalism and destruction of religious images during the English revolution by the Roundheads.

So9

[Polycarp IV]

fyi...

[firerosemom]

Do you have a primary source for the table? I'd like to be able to reference this in my biology classes, if possible.

[Polycarp IV]

Do you have a primary source for the table?

Here's the table link, http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/DBG.TAB1.2.GIF which is part of the massive amount of research available at Freedom, Democracy, Peace; Power, Democide, and War by Prof. RUDOLPH J. RUMMEL, PhD., of the The University of Hawaii

[xJones]

Protestants are the consumate Iconoclasts, withess the vandalism and destruction of religious images during the English revolution by the Roundheads.

Bloody Mary, that devout Catholic Queen of England, only destroyed Protestant bodies in the fires of Smithfield so that must have been superior by your standards.

[thePilgrim]

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[Servant of the 9]

Protestants are the consummate Iconoclasts, witness the vandalism and destruction of religious images during the English revolution by the Roundheads.

Bloody Mary, that devout Catholic Queen of England, only destroyed Protestant bodies in the fires of Smithfield so that must have been superior by your standards.

Since I am Episcopalian, I don't think so.
I also don't think iconoclasm has anything at all to do with atheism or with the disintegration of society.

I think the article was more than just a stretch, it was ignorant.

SO9

[onedoug]

Some variation of Pascal's Wager still seems a good bet to me.

[Mark in the Old South]

All true unless you happen to be a first trimester fetus depending on the loving kindness of one in four American women. Well it could be worse there is always China.

[Mark in the Old South]

Anybody remember Saint Bartholomew's day? The Duke De Guise had 2000 Huguenots murdered in a single day.(I am Catholic by the way) All this is interesting but the point of the article remains true, which is Godless governments kill far more than ones guided by a religious code. So we can all site examples of a Catholic King killing Protestants with counter charges of Protestants killing innocent Catholics (for balance remember Geneva under the Calvinist). Without figures that approach those sited in the article the point is pointless.

[yankeedame]

I also don't think iconoclasm has anything at all to do with atheism or with the disintegration of society.

I agree in large part with that, albeit I would modify it to say: "...iconoclasm has anything at all to do with is not exclusive to atheism or with the disintegration of society. This can be seen not only in the 16th c. western European Reformation, but also the on-going centuries old battle that took place in Eastern and Russian Orthodox church(s) in re: to icons.

Re: Bloody Mary Tutor, 228 went to the flames. But least we should be tempted to wag a finger bear in mind that quite a new "dissenters" met the fire, and the axe, under the reign of her father (Henry VIII), her sister (Elizabeth I) and even a few under the brief reign of her brother (Edward IV)...and let's not even get started with Scotland and/or Germany! There is blame enough to go around.

[yankeedame]

Anybody remember Saint Bartholomew's day? The Duke De Guise had 2000 Huguenots murdered in a single day..

Ah, yes: "Then kill them! Kill them all!", cried the distraught young king. "Only do not blame me for the calamity!"

[tpaine]

I also don't think iconoclasm has anything at all to do with atheism or with the disintegration of society.


I think the article was more than just a stretch, it was ignorant.

10 -SO9-


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Well said.
Bump to the author.

[TradicalRC]

I also don't think iconoclasm has anything at all to do with atheism or with the disintegration of society.

Au contraire, mon frere. I think that protestant iconoclasm has everything to do with atheism by degrees. It starts with a rebellion against authority, ascetic pietism and sola scriptura. Then comes the deistic philosophy, where God is just an idea of a prime mover which started a universe and then went on permanent vacation. Eventually, the scientists will turn their contempt for God (Remember Galileo!! rings their battle cry) towards the "real" origin of the universe. For which there is no more proof for their theories than there is for God's existence.
Meanwhile, back in protestantland, They divide and conjure up more versions of Christianity that have less and less to do with God, Scripture and Heaven and have more and more to do with Man, ideology and this world. As an Episcopalian, you have a bird's-eye view of a Church that has deliberately turned away from the tenets of Scripture with the ordination of Bishop Robinson.
Quite frankly, God becomes no more than window dressing for a house of atheists. And perhaps like the Unitarians and other denoms, they'll officially declare it. Unless, of course, that declaration would fly in the face of their moral relativism.

[Servant of the 9]

Au contraire, mon frere. I think that protestant iconoclasm has everything to do with atheism by degrees.

I presume you feel the same way about Jewish or Islamic iconoclasm.

I also presume you think Catholicism is the heart and soul of society, unless I am mistaken and you are a Hindu or some third brand of idolator.

It is the protestant work ethic and the Jewish work ethic that are the reasons we are not still living in hovels on our masters estates, and dieing at 30.
They go hand in hand with elimination of primitive superstition.

So9

[Campion]

It is the protestant work ethic and the Jewish work ethic that are the reasons we are not still living in hovels on our masters estates, and dieing at 30.

One would hope that you would point yourself toward something more spiritually substantial than material prosperity. I would rather live in a hovel and die at 30 and go to heaven, than live in a palace and die at 90 and go to hell.

But in any case, I think scientific progress in health care and economics has infinitely more to do with that than anything intrinsic to Protestantism, and science is hardly an exclusively Protestant enterprise.

[xJones]

Okay, you all, I made the Bloody Mary comment at almost 3:00 am CST. I didn't remember that Servant of the 9 is Episcopalian and missed the point. Mea culpa.

Yes, Prots and Catholics have killed a lot of each other, and it's impossible to believe that many of the leading combatants, including popes, didn't do so using the guise of religion for political, financial and territorial gain. It's still going on in Northern Ireland today.

There was the Thirty Years War between Catholics and different Protestant groups who's princes were trying to break away from Rome and control their own territories sans the greedy, corrupt Vatican. And the Thirty Year War was well after the pre-Reformation One Hundred Years War between the Catholic English and French, which was anything but religiously instigated.

Europe's always been a turf war, and horrible executions were the norm until very recently. In the 'good old days' the British burned Joan of Arc after the Duke of Burgandy sold her to them, the Catholics burned Jan Hus, the Calvinists burned Servitus,.....everybody occasionally held human barbecues to get even or feel righteous.

But no amount of inter-Christian murders ever came within a tiny fraction of the millions that have been murdered by atheist governments in the twentieth century. Read "The Black Book of Communism", for instance, and these were all mass murders committed under the authority of avowed atheists leaders.

However, I also find the "Atheists Kill!" comments followed by the giant eyeball post a little ridiculous. By extrapolation, maybe we should be eyeballing the ACLU for going after our Christmas nativity scenes for many years.:)