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US bishops rejected Ratzinger's advice
Catholic World News ^ | July 3, 2004

Posted on 07/03/2004 6:45:41 AM PDT by RockDoc

In a letter to US bishops, Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger threw his full support behind the few bishops who have said they will deny the Eucharist to Catholic politicians who support legal abortion, according to an Italian press report. The US bishops voted overwhelmingly to take a less rigorous stance.

The Italian weekly L'Espresso has reported that Cardinal Ratzinger, the prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, told the American bishops should speak privately with prominent Catholics who defy Church teachings on key issues involving the sanctity of life, alert them to the gravity of their offenses, and warn them that they should not receive Communion. The Vatican's chief doctrinal official wrote: "When ìthese precautionary measures have not had their effect...and the person in question, with obstinate persistence, still presents himself to receive the Holy Eucharist, ìhe minister of Holy Communion must refuse to distribute it."

L'Espresso has published the full text of Cardinal Ratzinger's letter, which had not previously been available to the public. Cardinal Theodore McCarrick of Washington, who heads a committee of US bishops studying possible responses to pro-abortion Catholic politicians, told reporters that the Ratzinger letter left the issue in the hands of the American hierarchy.

At their Denver meeting, the US bishops adopted a policy statement re-affirming the Church's condemnation of legal abortion, but stopping short of any call for withholding the Eucharist from prominent abortion supporters. The bishops reportedly turned down a milder form of the resolution, backed by Cardinal McCarrick, which would have said that it was imprudent to deny the Eucharist to Catholic politicians. In conversations with the press, Cardinal McCarrick had hinted that the Ratzinger letter gave support to that position.

Sandro Magister, the veteran Vatican reporter who is the author of the Espresso report, writes that Cardinal Ratzinger was clear in his letter, which was sent to Cardinal Ratzinger and to Bishop Wilton Gregory, the president of the US bishops' conference. But as Magister put it, in the headline of his article, the text of the Ratzinger letter shows: "What he wanted, but didn't get."


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1 posted on 07/03/2004 6:45:41 AM PDT by RockDoc
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To: RockDoc

From: http://213.92.16.98/ESW_articolo/0,2393,42196,00.html

Worthiness to Receive Holy Communion. General Principles

by Joseph Ratzinger

1. Presenting oneself to receive Holy Communion should be a conscious decision, based on a reasoned judgement regarding one’s worthiness to do so, according to the Church’s objective criteria, asking such questions as: “Am I in full communion with the Catholic Church? Am I guilty of grave sin? Have I incurred a penalty (e.g. excommunication, interdict) that forbids me to receive Holy Communion? Have I prepared myself by fasting for at least an hour?” The practice of indiscriminately presenting oneself to receive Holy Communion, merely as a consequence of being present at Mass, is an abuse that must be corrected (cf. Instruction “Redemptionis Sacramentum,” nos. 81, 83).

2. The Church teaches that abortion or euthanasia is a grave sin. The Encyclical Letter Evangelium vitae, with reference to judicial decisions or civil laws that authorise or promote abortion or euthanasia, states that there is a “grave and clear obligation to oppose them by conscientious objection. [...] In the case of an intrinsically unjust law, such as a law permitting abortion or euthanasia, it is therefore never licit to obey it, or to ‘take part in a propoganda campaign in favour of such a law or vote for it’” (no. 73). Christians have a “grave obligation of conscience not to cooperate formally in practices which, even if permitted by civil legislation, are contrary to God’s law. Indeed, from the moral standpoint, it is never licit to cooperate formally in evil. [...] This cooperation can never be justified either by invoking respect for the freedom of others or by appealing to the fact that civil law permits it or requires it” (no. 74).

3. Not all moral issues have the same moral weight as abortion and euthanasia. For example, if a Catholic were to be at odds with the Holy Father on the application of capital punishment or on the decision to wage war, he would not for that reason be considered unworthy to present himself to receive Holy Communion. While the Church exhorts civil authorities to seek peace, not war, and to exercise discretion and mercy in imposing punishment on criminals, it may still be permissible to take up arms to repel an aggressor or to have recourse to capital punishment. There may be a legitimate diversity of opinion even among Catholics about waging war and applying the death penalty, but not however with regard to abortion and euthanasia.

4. Apart from an individuals’s judgement about his worthiness to present himself to receive the Holy Eucharist, the minister of Holy Communion may find himself in the situation where he must refuse to distribute Holy Communion to someone, such as in cases of a declared excommunication, a declared interdict, or an obstinate persistence in manifest grave sin (cf. can. 915).

5. Regarding the grave sin of abortion or euthanasia, when a person’s formal cooperation becomes manifest (understood, in the case of a Catholic politician, as his consistently campaigning and voting for permissive abortion and euthanasia laws), his Pastor should meet with him, instructing him about the Church’s teaching, informing him that he is not to present himself for Holy Communion until he brings to an end the objective situation of sin, and warning him that he will otherwise be denied the Eucharist.

6. When “these precautionary measures have not had their effect or in which they were not possible,” and the person in question, with obstinate persistence, still presents himself to receive the Holy Eucharist, “the minister of Holy Communion must refuse to distribute it” (cf. Pontifical Council for Legislative Texts Declaration “Holy Communion and Divorced, Civilly Remarried Catholics” [2002], nos. 3-4). This decision, properly speaking, is not a sanction or a penalty. Nor is the minister of Holy Communion passing judgement on the person’s subjective guilt, but rather is reacting to the person’s public unworthiness to receive Holy Communion due to an objective situation of sin.

[N.B. A Catholic would be guilty of formal cooperation in evil, and so unworthy to present himself for Holy Communion, if he were to deliberately vote for a candidate precisely because of the candidate’s permissive stand on abortion and/or euthanasia. When a Catholic does not share a candidate’s stand in favour of abortion and/or euthanasia, but votes for that candidate for other reasons, it is considered remote material cooperation, which can be permitted in the presence of proportionate reasons.]


2 posted on 07/03/2004 6:54:17 AM PDT by RockDoc
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To: RockDoc

McCarrick lied. Why does this not shock me.


3 posted on 07/03/2004 6:56:23 AM PDT by Desdemona
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To: Salvation

For your discussion Ping.


4 posted on 07/03/2004 7:03:54 AM PDT by RockDoc
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To: RockDoc
At their Denver meeting, the US bishops adopted a policy statement re-affirming the Church's condemnation of legal abortion...

Mighty big of 'em   </sarcasm>

I do not doubt that the majority of the US bishops are in fact pro-life.  I have come to believe that as a group, action or inaction stems not from prayer but from fear.  Shameful that "be not afraid" is so foreign.
5 posted on 07/03/2004 7:23:07 AM PDT by GirlShortstop ( O sublime humility! That the Lord... should humble Himself like this...)
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To: RockDoc
Nor is the minister of Holy Communion passing judgement on the person’s subjective guilt, but rather is reacting to the person’s public unworthiness to receive Holy Communion due to an objective situation of sin.

LOADED QUESTION:
Where does that leave Joe or Jane Extraordinary Minister of the Eucharist?
6 posted on 07/03/2004 8:12:54 AM PDT by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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To: Dominick
Where does that leave Joe or Jane Extraordinary Minister of the Eucharist?

No EEM should take it upon himself or herself to refuse the Eucharist to anybody. If a pastor directs them to, they should follow his direction.

7 posted on 07/03/2004 8:15:17 AM PDT by sinkspur (There's no problem on the inside of a kid that the outside of a dog can't cure.)
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To: sinkspur
Thats what bothers me about this directive, in many Parishes I visit, most of the distribution of the Eucharist is done by the EEMs. A pastor is not going to notice, or take notice, or even if they did notice have a chance to direct an EEM to deny reception.

IMHO, this should have been a more forceful statement, or it is useless. The left is happy to meddle in the affairs of the Dioceses of the Church in America. I understand Ratzinger taking the high road, but I don't have to like it.
8 posted on 07/03/2004 9:01:45 AM PDT by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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To: Dominick
Thats what bothers me about this directive, in many Parishes I visit, most of the distribution of the Eucharist is done by the EEMs. A pastor is not going to notice, or take notice, or even if they did notice have a chance to direct an EEM to deny reception.

You could count on one hand the number of priests who will refuse the Eucharist to a parishioner. Even those who do must make certain they are not making public something that is only known by them in the internal forum.

9 posted on 07/03/2004 9:04:49 AM PDT by sinkspur (There's no problem on the inside of a kid that the outside of a dog can't cure.)
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To: sinkspur

Yeah, and you can count on more than two hands the number of times a person is refused communion simply because they want to kneel to receive the Blessed Sacrament(I surmise several hands from the stories I have read on the net).

[sigh]

What the heck over? What in the world is going on?


10 posted on 07/03/2004 9:11:08 AM PDT by undirish01 (Go Irish! If only we can get the theology dept. turned around.)
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To: RockDoc
I never bought the "CDF says so" crap from the Bishop of DC. Everyone knows the Ratz hates wet noodles and wet noodling. Listening to McCarrick, you'd a thunk Ratzinger pinched his cheeks and goo-goo-gah-gahed "aren't you precious."
11 posted on 07/03/2004 9:12:56 AM PDT by Lilllabettt
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To: RockDoc; NYer; johnb2004; saradippity
Cardinal Theodore McCarrick of Washington, who heads a committee of US bishops studying possible responses to pro-abortion Catholic politicians, told reporters that the Ratzinger letter left the issue in the hands of the American hierarchy.

Well yes, the issue of the fate of Jesus was left in the hands of Pontius Pilate, whose name made it into the Creed.

Your name too, uncle Ted, will forever be etched into the infamous Hall of Shame of catholic history for all to dump on.

12 posted on 07/03/2004 9:18:04 AM PDT by m4629
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To: RockDoc

That's the problem with having an organization like the USCCB. What should be left up to individal Bishops is instead delegated to a committee. Individual Bishops, with no spine or a liberal agenda, are able to hide in anonymity. It wasn't meant to be that way.

Instead of manufacturing reasons to not fulfill their obligations as shepherds, they should instead be explaining to their flock the actions they have taken to protect them.


13 posted on 07/03/2004 9:37:41 AM PDT by Arguss (Take the narrow road)
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To: Arguss
That's the problem with having an organization like the USCCB. What should be left up to individal Bishops is instead delegated to a committee

I wonder what would happen if a Bishop wanted to leave the USCCB? HMMMMMmmMMM....
14 posted on 07/03/2004 9:42:19 AM PDT by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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To: RockDoc; *Catholic_list; father_elijah; nickcarraway; SMEDLEYBUTLER; Siobhan; Lady In Blue; ...
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16 posted on 07/03/2004 9:54:48 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: RockDoc; .45MAN; AAABEST; AKA Elena; al_c; american colleen; Angelus Errare; annalex; Annie03; ...
Catholic World News article verifying Italian newspaper report:

The Italian weekly L'Espresso has reported that Cardinal Ratzinger, the prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, told the American bishops should speak privately with prominent Catholics who defy Church teachings on key issues involving the sanctity of life, alert them to the gravity of their offenses, and warn them that they should not receive Communion. The Vatican's chief doctrinal official wrote: "When these precautionary measures have not had their effect...and the person in question, with obstinate persistence, still presents himself to receive the Holy Eucharist, ìhe minister of Holy Communion must refuse to distribute it."

The US bishops are in open schism.

Ping. (As usual, if you would like to be added to or removed from my "conservative Catholics" ping list, please send me a FReepmail. Please note that this is occasionally a high volume ping list and some of my ping posts are long.)

17 posted on 07/03/2004 10:01:16 AM PDT by Polycarp IV
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To: sandyeggo
We have here a bishop and Cardinal so far who seem to have a far different interpretation of the very clear directive from Cardinal Ratzinger. Who would've thunk it? Yeah really. I however held out the possibility that Ratzingers letter may have had wiggle room. That wasn't the case though as there is no 2 ways to interpret the following.

"When ìthese precautionary measures have not had their effect...and the person in question, with obstinate persistence, still presents himself to receive the Holy Eucharist, ìhe minister of Holy Communion MUST refuse to distribute it."

McCarrick didn't merely choose to be creative with an ambiguous document from Ratzinger, he outright intentionally lied through his teeth after reading a very one.

18 posted on 07/03/2004 10:03:58 AM PDT by AAABEST (Lord have mercy on us)
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To: Polycarp IV; Desdemona
It would seem that Ratzinger's stated recommendation is the correct "prudential judgment" reflecting the authentic teaching of the church on the grave evil of abortion and on the proper disposition for reception of Holy Communion. Which leads to this...WHAT ARE THE REASONS why so many U.S. bishops have decided not to make this "prudential judgment"??? This is key. Why do they choose not to???
19 posted on 07/03/2004 10:06:35 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Polycarp IV

One possibility - some are dissenting homos (liberals) who disagree with church teaching in many areas.


20 posted on 07/03/2004 10:08:23 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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