To: ultima ratio
Have SSPX bishops whom Rome has forbidden to ordain been ordaining priests?
If so, since when and how many? Are these ordinations invalid, or valid but illicit, or what?
2 posted on
06/23/2004 10:12:09 PM PDT by
dsc
To: dsc
Of course the bishops ordain--and the men they ordain are fine orthodox priests--straight and devout. They celebrate Mass all over the world and number now over 600--and growing. Their ordinations are valid--though technically illicit--though even this is doubtful since Rome's entire offensive against the SSPX has been based on lies and public slander primarily. That is why I am posting excerpts from the Apologia. Davies records a chain of fraudulent actions on the Vatican's part.
To: dsc
The ordinations are definitely illicit. It has nothing to do with the goodness or badness of Rome's behavior, or the goodness or badness of priests. Bishops can not go around ordaining other Bishop's without Rome's approval; or else we'd have 50 dozen Mahoney clones running around the Curia, and we'd be even worse off then we are now. The act of disobedience itself renders its fruits (the ordinations of priests,)canonically illegal, though sacramentally valid. The schism can thus become self-perpetuating, the worst possible outcome where Church divisions are concerned.
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