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That Movie (article about the "Passion of Christ" and the true inspiration for the movie)
Cross Word - Banner U.K. Ministries ^ | February 2004 | Tricia Tillin

Posted on 06/13/2004 10:19:59 PM PDT by streetpreacher

Edited on 06/14/2004 7:21:21 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

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1 posted on 06/13/2004 10:20:01 PM PDT by streetpreacher
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To: streetpreacher

For some reason, I can't get the pictures from the body of the article to post.

Here are the links to them:

http://www.banner.org.uk/images/teresa-sml.jpg

http://www.banner.org.uk/images/melonset.jpg


2 posted on 06/13/2004 10:27:38 PM PDT by streetpreacher
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To: drstevej; OrthodoxPresbyterian; CCWoody; Wrigley; Gamecock; Jean Chauvin; jboot; jude24

I'm not Reformed, but I thought you guys might appreciate this article.


3 posted on 06/13/2004 10:29:36 PM PDT by streetpreacher
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To: alpha-8-25-02

Ping


4 posted on 06/13/2004 10:30:32 PM PDT by streetpreacher
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To: drstevej; OrthodoxPresbyterian; CCWoody; Wrigley; Gamecock; Jean Chauvin; jboot; jude24; ...

Don's wife, Bonnie Franklin added her word, as follows:

So I would say this day to embrace your brother of the Catholic faith, of the Catholic denomination, for he shall bring more to the Kingdom of God in one day than you will bring to the Kingdom of God in a lifetime. No, not a thousand, no, not ten thousand, but a hundred thousand in a day! I said, a hundred thousand in a day, and when the souls are counted up it shall be into the millions that are brought into the Kingdom for such a time as this, for such a time as this.

So, yea, you shall see the Kingdom of God grow and the Kingdom of God change, but you shall also see the kingdoms on this earth change as many, many souls are turned to the heart of their God and their hearts are changed. And I saw in my spirit that in the future days there will be great gatherings of people coming together in one accord praising and worshipping God. People of every walk of life, of every denomination, nation and tongue, they will come together as a family all birthed into the kingdom of God during one event, the showing of The Passion.


5 posted on 06/13/2004 10:32:58 PM PDT by streetpreacher
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To: streetpreacher
Here is the pictures from the article that I was able to post thanks to Salvation.
6 posted on 06/13/2004 11:26:03 PM PDT by streetpreacher
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To: streetpreacher
Here they are again. Now I know why the original post didn't work; I forgot to include quotes at the end of the image URL. LOL.


Gibson on the Set


Teresa of Avila painting

7 posted on 06/13/2004 11:29:36 PM PDT by streetpreacher
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To: streetpreacher
sorry, stopped reading after this:

Mel Gibson is not a member of the normal Roman Catholic Church.

the author lost credibility early on.

8 posted on 06/13/2004 11:40:47 PM PDT by D-fendr
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To: D-fendr

Gibson built his own church -- invitation only. There were a lot of articles about it when the movie came out. If I remember correctly, it is SSPX.


9 posted on 06/13/2004 11:54:57 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: D-fendr

Actually, that's a fairly accurate description.


10 posted on 06/14/2004 12:07:25 AM PDT by streetpreacher
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To: D-fendr

"He built the large Traditionalist church in California with no ties to any Catholic diocese."


11 posted on 06/14/2004 12:08:49 AM PDT by streetpreacher
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To: streetpreacher; Salvation; D-fendr

It is possible to do what he did within the Roman Catholic Church. In fact,I know of two ways,whether Mel used them or not is not important. It is far more important to protect those avenues that are open and relatively unknown and/or to protect some persons who may be involved,than to get into yet one more splitting dialogue,IMO.


12 posted on 06/14/2004 12:51:31 AM PDT by saradippity
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To: streetpreacher

Now that the movie is out and we have (nearly) all seen it at least once, it should be easy to answer whether the fears were well-founded:

Q. Has any Protestant lost their faith or had their relationship with God damaged by seeing this movie?

A. None that I have heard of.

Q. Has any Catholic lost their faith or had their relationship with God damaged by seeing this movie?

A. None that I have heard of.

Q. Has any Jew been persecuted because of this movie?

A. None that I have heard of.

Q. Have some people been drawn closer to reading the scriptures and committing their lives to Christ because of this movie?

A. Some have.

Q. Has a mass restoration of faith in Christ been inaugurated by this movie?

A. No.

Q. Is it reasonable to expect a movie to lead to a landslide of conversions?

A. No - only the Holy Spirit causes any conversion.

Conclusion: none have been damaged by this movie, some have been blessed by this movie - now its time to go out and convert the world to Christ in obedience to the Gospel and the Holy Spirit. If the movie helps as a tool, then use it; if it doesn't help, then don't!


13 posted on 06/14/2004 3:34:20 AM PDT by Tantumergo
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To: streetpreacher; Tantumergo

The GRPL ping list is for use by GRPL omly. Thanks. Please request one of us to ping the list. Thanks.

BTW, I agree with Tantumergo's post #13


14 posted on 06/14/2004 4:54:38 AM PDT by drstevej (GRPL Haze will put a spell on you.)
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To: Salvation; D-fendr
Mel Gibson's priest is a Catholic with a celebret from the Ecclesia Dei Commission. He isn't schismatic. See here.
15 posted on 06/14/2004 5:17:49 AM PDT by gbcdoj (For not the hearers of the law are just before God: but the doers of the law shall be justified.)
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To: streetpreacher
There sure are an awful lot of words after this sentence:

I have not seen this film

16 posted on 06/14/2004 5:52:09 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: D-fendr
the author lost credibility early on.

Even earlier for me (see #16).

17 posted on 06/14/2004 5:54:53 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: streetpreacher
However, the bible predicts increasing lawlessness in the run-up to the end of the age, not obedience. Rather than a change in human hearts leading to widespread conversion, the bible says that "wickedness shall increase" and when the Lord comes "shall he find faith on the earth?" Implied answer - NO.

Apostasy (that is, a falling away from the faith on a large scale) is what the bible tells us will happen in the last days. (2 Thess 2:3) There is NO biblical warrant for a massive restoration, global revival, awakening or a renewal of spiritual purity - or any of the mighty moves of God that modern-day prophets speak of.

And the author loses me in the first few paragraphs.

Very sorry, but I automatically dismiss any author who uses pessimistic eschatology as a filter for current events. Why, one would think the Fall had more power over creation than did the Resurrection...

18 posted on 06/14/2004 5:56:21 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: Tantumergo

Spot-on.


19 posted on 06/14/2004 7:00:38 AM PDT by jude24 (sola gratia)
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain

Ping.


20 posted on 06/14/2004 7:07:16 AM PDT by malakhi
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