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To: Hermann the Cherusker
The Son is also God. If the Holy Spirit proceeds from God the Father then it also proceeds from the Son, if the Son is God. I believe He is.
6 posted on 11/22/2003 3:21:24 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah (National health care gives the government the means to kill you when you become too expensive)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah; Hermann the Cherusker
I believe He is.

That is why the Ecumenical Councils were held and the Creed adopted so that anyone's individuals beliefs would not contaminate the teachings of the Church.

It is not up to you to pick and chose what you believe but to accept the teachings of the church as presented.

"If we are at variance with the Nicene Creed, we are in error."

7 posted on 11/22/2003 3:49:39 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
If the Holy Spirit proceeds from God the Father then it also proceeds from the Son, if the Son is God.

If that is understood, then the words "and the Son" are superfluous, are they not?

10 posted on 11/22/2003 5:58:10 PM PST by FormerLib
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah; Destro
The Son is also God. If the Holy Spirit proceeds from God the Father then it also proceeds from the Son, if the Son is God. I believe He is.

The Holy Spirit is also God; does He proceed from Himself? Why not? You are saying the quality which makes Him proceed from the Son is the deity of the Son. Does the Son proceed from the Father and the Holy Spirit, since they are both God? Again, why not if no? Are you saying the processions orginate in the common essence? Does the Father proceed from the Son and the Holy Spirit for the same reason?

You are going to have to be a bit more clear.

13 posted on 11/23/2003 4:09:58 AM PST by Hermann the Cherusker
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