Posted on 10/31/2003 11:08:40 AM PST by Aquinasfan
I just heard on EWTN newsbriefs that some Vatican body has announced that a the Catholic Church has reached some form of agreement with the Orthodox Churches regarding the Nicene Creed, specifically the filioque.
I can't remember exactly what the agreement was, but it sounded significant. If anyone finds anything on line, please post it.
That could be it. The date seems right. But I thought I heard that this was coming from a Vatican Congregation. We'll see.
Catholic-Orthodox talks reach partial accord on ancient creedal dispute
WASHINGTON (AP) - The official dialogue between Roman Catholic and Orthodox leaders in North America announced partial agreement on a doctrinal issue that has divided the two Christian branches for nearly 1,000 years.
The groups issued a joint statement Tuesday about the wording of the Nicene Creed, which is recited in all Orthodox and Catholic churches.
The Orthodox insist on the original Greek text from the Council of Constantinople (A.D. 381), which speaks of "the Holy Spirit, who proceeds from the Father." In 1014, the papacy added "and the Son" ("filioque" in Latin) after that phrase, despite opposition from Eastern churches.
The creedal change and the exercise of papal power without church-wide agreement were major issues in the "Great Schism" between Catholicism and Orthodoxy that was formalized in 1054.
The new statement, the 22nd since the talks began in 1965, notes that the Vatican has affirmed the "normative and irrevocable dogmatic value" of the wording from 381. The paper thus recommends that Catholicism use the original text in worship, and cancel an anathema against Orthodox usage from a Catholic council in 1274.
However, such actions require approval by the Vatican, which sponsors separate Orthodox-Catholic discussions at the world level.
The North American negotiators say the exact relationship of the three persons within the divine Trinity (Father, Son, Holy Spirit) "awaits full and final ecumenical resolution."
The talks are chaired by Orthodox Metropolitan Maximos of Pittsburgh and Catholic Archbishop Daniel Pilarczyk of Cincinnati.
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It is ALL about The Official Greek ORTHODOX Bible TEXTS....N.T.,....and holding to 1st John 5:7 as in the KJV.
Long live the Offical Greek Orthodox Text!
Why?.....be-clause!
':-)
'Luther'......Romans 5:1,........Romans 10:17.....etc.
The Greek Orthodox Church HAS (possesses) The Holy Scripture!
:-)
Shalom......in God's promises!
So what?
So it's much ado about nothing, from a purely spiritual standpoint. Creeds are ecclesiastical politics.
Not one that somebody else wrote out of their own desire to shape the Gospel in conformance to their personal will.
Paul said that we should be prepared to offer a reason, but he didn't say that we should be prepared to recite a reason that was prepared by others.
His Beatitude, Metropolitan Herman, received two monastic priests and three novices from the former Eastern Rite Catholic Monastery of the Holy Cross here into the Orthodox Faith during a visit October 27 and 28, 2003.
The pics are stunning. Do go and see them here and less stunning ones here.
Also it appears a school came along? What do you think?
He sang so beautifully when he was out here with the entourage a few years ago.
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