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California: How Bay Area became political island.
Democrats are embraced here year in, year out
San Francisco Chronicle ^
| October 12, 2003
| Mark Simon
Posted on 10/12/2003 9:13:28 AM PDT by John Jorsett
Edited on 04/13/2004 2:44:21 AM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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What is it with us? How did the Bay Area become the odd man out in California politics?
On Tuesday, while the rest of the state eagerly dumped Democratic Gov. Gray Davis and replaced him with Republican Arnold Schwarzenegger, the Bay Area said no and not him.
(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...
TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: bluezone; calgov2002; catrans; fruitsandnuts; hippies; homosexuals; recallanalysis; sanfrancisco
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To: John Jorsett
Some of it's intellect, I just blew chunks all over my keyboard. Thanks for the barf alert! (Oh, it's the SF Chron which means an auto barf alert.)
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posted on
10/12/2003 9:19:26 AM PDT
by
Drango
(What's mine is mine: And what's yours is yours: And what's mine is not yours.)
To: All
Hi mom!
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posted on
10/12/2003 9:19:29 AM PDT
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![](http://vote2003.ss.ca.gov/Returns/recall/mapN4031008192717.gif)
Map of California counties that voted against (red) and for (green) Davis recall
Bay Area: "WTF just happened??"
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posted on
10/12/2003 9:23:02 AM PDT
by
martin_fierro
(The trivmphant retvrn of A v v n c v l v s M a x i m v s)
To: John Jorsett
Yeah, and my current understanding is that the whole city is an open air ghetto of the homeless, the helpless and the hopeless.
Good going dems, you lead the way. And we'll all go in the opposite direction!
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posted on
10/12/2003 9:28:29 AM PDT
by
jocon307
(GO RUSH GO)
To: martin_fierro
"It strikes me that the better educated people are, more often than not, they tend to be more liberal, and I think this is a very well-educated area," said Orville Schell, noted author and dean of the UC Berkeley Graduate School of Journalism. I guess the inner-city high school dropouts who form the base of the Democrat Party are better educated than I thought.
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posted on
10/12/2003 9:29:37 AM PDT
by
Dog Gone
To: John Jorsett
"It strikes me that the better educated people are, more often than not, they tend to be more liberal, and I think this is a very well-educated area," said Orville Schell, noted author and dean of the UC Berkeley Graduate School of Journalism. At least his bias doesn't go to the next step, intelligence. According to him, all of us conservatives are just ignorant; usually it is ignorant AND stupid.
To: John Jorsett
What I gleam fromn this article is that the "Bay Area" is now on the outside looking in. Or they are through the looking glass, disconnested from reality. This does not bolster the assertion they are especially intellectual, in my opinion. Their need for a socialistic life has rendered the entire area a wasteland of political non-significance. I suppose the major media will continued to try and explain all this away, but I believe the real-world people are getting a lot smarter than their "superiors" care to acknowledge. The "Bay Area" now has third-world status on the political map. Smart, no?
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posted on
10/12/2003 9:33:24 AM PDT
by
whereasandsoforth
(tagged for migratory purposes only)
To: John Jorsett
It's simple, Liberals, think they are better than the in and red necks. They are much more sophisticated, educated, and know how to live your life better than you do. Their vassels, the drop outs, homeless, vagrants, bums, and the lazy keep them thinking that.
Their minds are not going to be changed. So the solution is keep them isolated in pockets. Then when the terrorits get their hands on a nuculear device, with assistance of Liberals like Ted Kennedy Et al, guess where it is going off. You guessed it, a Liberal bastion like SF, or Boston, or NY, or Seattle.
So, you good hardworking conservatives and patriiots, stay away from them Liberals.
To: jocon307
"Yeah, and my current understanding is that the whole city is an open air ghetto of the homeless, the helpless and the hopeless." The liberal leftists have screwed up San Francisco big-time. I'm a native San Franciscan, born there in 1951. The San Francisco I knew as a child is gone. It was beautiful, peaceful and serene, and recreation was free or inexpensive. Now it's crowded, dirty, mean, and full of cesspools of homeless.
9 out of 10 people I know and deal with, are from somewhere else; very few native-born remain. Decent law-abiding people have thrown in the towel and moved out of the SF Bay Area, while SF has become a magnet for leftist idiots and crooks from throughout the country.
Back in the 50's, we didn't lock our front doors, kids played in the streets, parking spaces were easy to find. We had Playland at the beach, an amusement park with rides and carnival attractions; since replaced by apartments and condos. Entrance to many attractions such as the Zoo and the Japanese Tea Gardens was free, and others were nearly so. Nowadays a hefty fee is charged because the City no longer funds them fully from the tax base. The sidewalks were clean, devoid of vagrants and homeless with the exception of 3rd Street. The places that are now full of tourists and schlock, were in the 50's hub-bubs of commercial activity by blue-collar workers. Picture railroad freight cars criss-crossing the Embarcadero, Mission and Potrero districts, and piers full of ships, since gone.
The liberals have spun the lie that things are great in SF; but the natives know it is not so.
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posted on
10/12/2003 9:51:51 AM PDT
by
roadcat
To: John Jorsett
"It strikes me that the better educated people are, more often than not, they tend to be more liberal, and I think this is a very well-educated area," Let's fix that sentence:
"It strikes me that the better educated people are, more often than not, they tend to be more liberal have a higher opinion of themselves, and I think this is a very well-educated well-indoctrinated area,"
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posted on
10/12/2003 9:53:37 AM PDT
by
TrappedInLiberalHell
(Hillary walks into a bar. Let's hope it leaves a nice bump on her forehead.)
To: John Jorsett
Come on, earthquake!
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posted on
10/12/2003 9:56:47 AM PDT
by
Az Joe
To: blanknoone
His statement may be true. In order to teach, you need a lot more 'education' (i.e. classes) to get your credential in the case of public school teaching, or your masters/doctorate to teach at the university level. Since educators are predominently liberal, that probably accounts for the correlation. I've got graduate and post-grad degrees, and I'm of a conservative bent, but I haven't had to take near the number of classes an educator would, making me not 'highly educated' by some measures.
To: John Jorsett
Parts of CA that are the most liberal are into the philosophy of "Do what feel good with little or no consequences". Add getting the government to either pay for it or employ you and you get a Democrat stronghold with sodomite tendencies.
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posted on
10/12/2003 10:03:40 AM PDT
by
A CA Guy
(God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
To: stubernx98
There are two things that prop up liberalism despite the fact that their ideas have failed everytime they've been implemented. The first is the "I know what's best for you" elitism found among all
intellectual liberals. This goes hand in hand with the second crutch of leftist thinking. When confronted with the fact that communism, socialism, affirmative action, the Great Society, etc. etc. have all been catostrophic failures, all they need do is answer, "The right people weren't in charge".
Liberal elitism: It's the Kool-Aid that keeps on giving.
To: John Jorsett
Bay Area voters opposed the recall by 63 percent to 37 percent -- while Californians as a whole voted to oust Davis 55 percent to 45 percent. Without the nine Bay Area counties, the recall would have passed by 20 percentage points instead of its 10-point margin. Without the Bay Area, how much would Simon have beaten Gray Davis by, last year?
To: John Jorsett
In 1992, the entire Bay Area went for Democrat Bill Clinton over Republican Bob Dole, as Clinton carried the state. Huh? Wassup? It was Bush v Clinton in 1992. These idiots can't even keep simple facts straight.
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posted on
10/12/2003 10:13:41 AM PDT
by
BullDog108
(KNOW YOUR ENEMY! http://bvml.org/webmaster/enemy.html)
Everybody in the Bay Area like to be screwed.
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posted on
10/12/2003 10:18:31 AM PDT
by
Consort
To: roadcat
I've been in Oakland off and on since '43.
There was a huge influx into the area during WWII. Many poor southerners wanting work. And many immigrants settling here as well. When their children became teens there was a significant shift in social well being starting in the outlying communities and then the east bay.
The war effort in the Pacific was supported massivly from here.
Late 50's early 60's the shift was profound. I left in 63 and when I returned in 67 for a visit I could not believe the change. I remember commenting to a friend of mine (we were traveling from Asia to NY for a computer school) we needed to get out of here ASAP and return to Asia where we belonged. (I didn't come back until the late 70's)
I concur with all you have said - we left our front door unlocked untill we went to bed. It was a happy easygoing Republican stronghold. SF was fun to visit.
Now it seems a large % are on some kind of welfare.
I love the Bay Area - raised here and keep comming back - in spite of the social and political dysfunction.
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posted on
10/12/2003 10:18:57 AM PDT
by
Bobibutu
To: Dog Gone
I guess the inner-city high school dropouts who form the base of the Democrat Party are better educated than I thought.And I thought it was the rich, evil, money toting republicans that were destroying the freedoms in our country by taking money and opportunity away from the poor, left behind, people minded, liberals. /sarcasm
Do I sense a conflict in "liberal doctrine" in his statements? Yep...as usual.
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posted on
10/12/2003 10:32:16 AM PDT
by
EGPWS
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