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More homeowners selling houses for less than they owe
Seattle Times ^ | October 7, 2003 | Kristina Shevory

Posted on 10/07/2003 1:31:34 AM PDT by sarcasm

After years of borrowing in a sizzling housing market, more homeowners are finding themselves upside down on mortgages.

They borrowed more to buy or fix up homes than they can now afford, and a growing number are turning to short sales — selling homes for less than they owe — to unload high payments and avoid foreclosure or bankruptcy.

No organization tracks short sales, but real-estate agents, housing counselors and mortgage companies say they have been seeing more of them since the economy tanked and employers began laying off workers.

Most are the end result of delinquent mortgages — those not paid for more than 90 days — which have risen dramatically in the Seattle-Tacoma area the past three years. The number of delinquent mortgages rose 50 percent between June 2000 and July 2003, according to Loan Performance, a San Francisco firm that tracks mortgage data monthly.

For GVE, the increase in mortgage trouble is good news. GVE, in Covington, is one of the few companies in the area that brokers short sales, and business is up 70 percent in the past nine months, founder Joanne Anderson said.

She has been working 16-hour days, six or seven days a week, to keep up with demand, she said, and plans to hire 10 employees in the next year.

In the late 1990s, people were encouraged by rising stock portfolios and a robust economy. They took out large mortgages and tacked on home-equity debt with the help of looser loan-qualifying rules.

But low down payments, subprime loans (high-rate home loans aimed at buyers with terrible credit), and predatory mortgages (loans for people who often shouldn't have one), have gotten more people into homes they can't pay for.

"We're seeing tons of short sales and foreclosures because people are in over their heads," said Debra Snoey, branch manager at Windermere's Federal Way office, who works with Anderson on short sales. "It's refreshing when a buyer has equity now."

Although some lenders say buyers should max themselves out for a mortgage, being more practical is safer.

"(People) are buying more expensive homes because they want one bigger, newer and better," Anderson said. "But they don't realize that if they bought a home for $20,000 less and saved up $5,000 for a down payment, they'd be sitting so much better."

Some homeowners find themselves in trouble when they least expect it.

An Issaquah woman who recently sold her house for $30,000 less than she owed on it never thought she'd be in that position.

The woman, who didn't want her name used because she's embarrassed, said she and her husband earned more than $200,000 a year, lived in a 3,200-square-foot custom-built home on an acre, and bought a new car every year.

Then her husband took a pay cut to save his job, and they couldn't keep up with the bills. The couple divorced, and he filed for bankruptcy, leaving her with three kids and two mortgages.

To make it, she put the family's home on the market, reducing the price four times in six months. In May, it finally sold, but at a loss.

"It's awful and embarrassing to do a short sale and admit you're a deadbeat," she said. "(But) people make mistakes. This can happen to anyone."

Sellers lose a lot in a short sale, but buyers can make out because the homes usually are worth more than they cost.

Hal Bancroft and his partner bought a 3,330-square-foot house in Everett last year from a couple who could no longer make their payments. The former owners had taken out a second mortgage to buy a motor home, but the man lost his job at Boeing and his wife broke her back. They sold the home for $205,000 — $30,000 less than they owed.

The deal had strings, though. Short sales can take several months to close because lenders take longer to approve them.

"It took four months to close what should have been a 30-day transaction," Bancroft said. "The byword with short sales is patience."

For real-estate agents, short sales aren't so good. Adnan Othman, with John L. Scott Real Estate in Lynnwood, said he usually receives a reduced commission of 1 to 1.5 percent and sometimes doesn't get one at all — agents typically get 3 percent on a regular sale — but he keeps handling them. Othman is working on four now.

"There's a lot of sadness when you see this," Othman said. "You want to throw a life preserver to them and see if you can help."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: boom; bubble; bust; crash
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1 posted on 10/07/2003 1:31:34 AM PDT by sarcasm
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To: sarcasm
No surprises here. Market still whistling past the graveyard...
2 posted on 10/07/2003 1:38:55 AM PDT by AntiGuv (When the countdown hits zero, something's gonna happen..)
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3 posted on 10/07/2003 1:39:33 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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4 posted on 10/07/2003 1:42:42 AM PDT by Fraulein (The left preaches diversity but demands conformity)
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To: sarcasm
OMG, we had almost the same article here in Phoenix over the weekend, in the Arizona Repulsive. Usually the manipulation of public opinion isn't quite so transparent...are they slipping?
5 posted on 10/07/2003 1:43:32 AM PDT by IrishRainy
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To: sarcasm
For anybody who bought houses in the D.C. area between about 85 and about 91 or so and then had to sell between 93 and 95, the only way out was either bankruptcy or walk away from it and hope nobody came after you. Those people at least had an excuse in that there had never been a top of the market prior to that. People who've been buying for the last two or three years don't have that excuse.
6 posted on 10/07/2003 1:49:51 AM PDT by judywillow (the supposed Kr)
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To: sarcasm
I have been saying this for two months here on FR. Many people have said I was nuts. But the housing bubble is just starting to break. I posted a comment two days ago warning that California may face a similar fate soon and that right now housing is at it tip-top peak. Again, people were telling me I was wrong.

The national economy is really many regional economies. Nobody really studies regional economics in college but that is the most important subject books do not cover. California may be booming while Indiana is fading. I believe the bubble has already burst is sections of California. But, then what do I know?

My best buddy is moving to Nevada and will buy near Lake Tahoe. He was working for the holding company that owns Coldwell Banker and Century 21 and was running the entire western region of eleven states for them: Take the hint folks.

7 posted on 10/07/2003 1:58:13 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Why Davis Orders Shredders - - Destroy Evidence of Fund Raising Felonies!)
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To: judywillow
This is another problem:

Refinanced mortgages could haunt you into retirement

WASHINGTON - Malcolm Buckey would be 97 years old when the 30-year mortgage on his dream home in Ponte Vedra Beach, Fla., is paid.

Walter Molony of Annandale, Va., would be 84 when the last payment comes due on his 30-year loan.

For many middle-aged homeowners, taking advantage of low mortgage rates will have an unintended consequence: As retirees on reduced incomes, they could have mortgages to contend with.

Experts say these people should consider their financial strategies carefully when opting for a 30-year loan rather than one for 10 or 15 years.

"You could have a significant financial problem if things don't go as planned," said Mark Zandi, chief economist at Economy.com, a research firm in West Chester, Pa. "For instance, your income isn't as strong as you thought it would be, and you won't be able to pay off your mortgage as quickly as you had thought. Or home prices end up being a lot weaker than you expected, and you won't be able to sell and pay off the mortgage."

People of average financial means should try to avoid having mortgage payments when they're retired, financial experts say. Nonetheless, it can make financial sense for some people to take out a longer-term loan.

In general, people in their 40s and 50s are enjoying their peak earnings years. This can make people better able to handle a shorter-term mortgage, but a longer-term one might offer more financial flexibility.

Buckey sold a house in Richmond, Va., to get the cash to pay for his ranch-style house in Florida. He decided to finance about 20 percent of the new house with a 30-year loan because the lower monthly payments offered flexibility. Plus, he would get a tax break.

"It was a budgeting issue," he said. "We wanted to make improvements."

Extra money for home-improvement projects or retirement investments are among the reasons older people cite when going for 30-year mortgages.

Molony, 54, refinanced his mortgage twice this year and went with a 30-year loan each time.

He and wife, Cathy, took out a larger loan in March and used the extra cash to make extensive repairs and upgrades on their house in Annandale, Va., as well as to pay off the mortgage on a cabin in the West Virginia mountains. He refinanced again in June to lower the monthly payments further.

There's a tax break to consider, said Greg McBride, a financial analyst with Bankrate.com, an online financial service. "By taking out a 30-year mortgage, you are paying down a lot less principal in the longer term, getting a larger tax deduction through the interest you are paying," he said.

Experts say middle-aged homeowners who take out 30-year loans are likely to pay them off ahead of time. They might be banking on a sharp rise in the value of their homes, which could be sold long before the 30-year loan is finished, leaving them with a tidy profit. Or they might be expecting a huge bonus or some other cash windfall that could be used to pay off the loan early.

Buckey plans to pay an additional amount to the principal each month. "It could be 20 years when I'm done," he said.

Doug Duncan, chief economist at the Mortgage Bankers Association of America, said the average life of a 30-year mortgage "is probably seven or eight years," meaning it's paid off in that period through refinancing or early repayment.

This trend has been heightened in recent years as millions of homeowners have moved to refinance mortgages to take advantage of the lowest rates in four decades.

In mid-June, the rates on benchmark 30-year mortgages slid to 5.21 percent, a record. Shortly afterward, rates started rising a bit, but they have gone down again in recent weeks.

AARP spokeswoman Sally Hurme, who deals with consumer protection, advises people to ask themselves questions like these:

How would I make the payments if I weren't working?

What expectations do I have about appreciation of the property?

Is this the place where I will live for the life of the loan?

How much debt am I going to be able to manage if my income is reduced?

When people refinance and take out loans larger than they need to finance a house, she said, they ought to think carefully about what they're going to do with the extra cash: for example, debt consolidation, paying for children's tuition, taking a trip around the world.

Some experts believe that the baby-boom generation is less worried about carrying mortgage debt into retirement.

"The sort of joy and sense of personal accomplishment to have paid off my mortgage and be able to leave my house free to my kids is one of those ingrained personal-finance philosophies we know of the older generation," Hurme said. "I think that boomers are not as debt-averse as their parents."

8 posted on 10/07/2003 2:00:33 AM PDT by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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9 posted on 10/07/2003 2:13:46 AM PDT by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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To: sarcasm
JBB's secret to financial security: Abhor consumer credit, live well below your means and save the rest.
10 posted on 10/07/2003 4:21:35 AM PDT by JBBooks
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To: JBBooks
Better to eschew that consumer credit. Many folks w/ lots of consumer credit abhor it. :)
11 posted on 10/07/2003 4:29:58 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Veni Vidi Velcro)
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To: ex-Texan
"But the housing bubble is just starting to break."

For me that's good news, as I still have never bought a house. This is the second housing price bubble I can remember, the last one had a lot to do with high interest rates, IIRC. The price of houses here in Northern NJ is obscene. $300,000 for really crappy houses in really crappy towns. Hubby thinks it's only driven by immigrants who live together by the dozen. I can only suppose he is correct, because only to an immigrant from some poverty stricken land would these properties look good. Or to a slumlord.
12 posted on 10/07/2003 4:46:03 AM PDT by jocon307 (GO RUSH GO)
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To: ex-Texan
The situation in California is (probably still) very different. When I was in law school, California had (still has?? anyone know?) an anti-deficiency statute and single action statute, both legacies of the depression, which prohibit a lender from collecting a "deficiency" judgement for the difference between the mortgage debt and the sale price of a property. In essence, if one gets in too far underwater on a mortgage (well, trust deed, actually, but that's technical) in California, you could just give the bank the keys and walk away with no debt.
13 posted on 10/07/2003 4:53:41 AM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo [Gallia][Germania][Arabia] Esse Delendam --- Select One or More as needed)
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To: IrishRainy
OMG, we had almost the same article here in Phoenix over the weekend, in the Arizona Repulsive. Usually the manipulation of public opinion isn't quite so transparent...are they slipping?

The recall out here in Kolly-vornia has them scared spitless.

Note the use of a statistic that isn't actually tracked anywhere.

"If it can't be expressed in figures, it is not science; it is opinion." -- Robert Heinlein, The Notebooks of Lazarus Long

14 posted on 10/07/2003 5:00:20 AM PDT by Poohbah ("[Expletive deleted] 'em if they can't take a joke!" -- Major Vic Deakins, USAF)
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To: sarcasm
Most are the end result of delinquent mortgages — those not paid for more than 90 days — which have risen dramatically in the Seattle-Tacoma area the past three years.

The three years being 2001, 2002, and 2003. Specifically, the housing market began collapsing on January 20, 2001 at 12 noon and has been accelerating since then. As a result we have almost 40,000,000 homeless womyn and children, the economy is a catastrophe, diversity has been set back some 8,000 years, and the environment has been devastated by the Bush administration. (drool, drool) Also, our foreign policy everywhere is a disaster, we no longer cooperate with the United Nations like we should, and we are about to elect a Nazi to the governorship of California. (froth, froth, carpet chewing) Finally, we fail to recognize that animals have rights and should be able to vote against the California recall. What a disaster this administration is! (That's what the voices told me to say!)

15 posted on 10/07/2003 5:01:27 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: sarcasm
An Issaquah woman who recently sold her house for $30,000 less than she owed on it never thought she'd be in that position.

...she and her husband earned more than $200,000 a year, lived in a 3,200-square-foot custom-built home on an acre, and bought a new car every year.

The mortgage wasn't the problem here. Incredibly poor money management was.

16 posted on 10/07/2003 5:09:23 AM PDT by whd23 (Proud owner/driver of a 10 year old car)
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To: whd23
Shh. You weren't supposed to notice that part.
17 posted on 10/07/2003 5:12:25 AM PDT by Poohbah ("[Expletive deleted] 'em if they can't take a joke!" -- Major Vic Deakins, USAF)
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To: whd23
At least one person got it right.
18 posted on 10/07/2003 5:14:30 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Poohbah
Were we also not supposed to notice the record high debt levels and record low savings rate nationwide, or does that not similarly suit your agenda?
19 posted on 10/07/2003 5:18:35 AM PDT by AntiGuv (When the countdown hits zero, something's gonna happen..)
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To: AntiGuv
I don't worry about other people's money, just mine. And I'm debt-free on far less income than the idiots cited in this article have.
20 posted on 10/07/2003 5:23:53 AM PDT by Poohbah ("[Expletive deleted] 'em if they can't take a joke!" -- Major Vic Deakins, USAF)
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