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U.S. Troops in Iraq mourn slain female soldier
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| 10/03/03
| Reuters
Posted on 10/03/2003 9:51:22 AM PDT by milemark
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To: dandelion
I'm with you. and prayers for this brave woman and her family.
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posted on
10/03/2003 10:32:12 AM PDT
by
Dante3
To: milemark
I agree, but it could be pulled. Highly innapropriate.
My best friend was killed by an improvised device while driving his tank retriever on a volunteer rescue mission.
That was March 27 1868 in Viet Nam. I feel the same pain
each time it happens to someone in Iraq. What can be done?
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posted on
10/03/2003 10:36:50 AM PDT
by
latrans
To: dandelion
"As the mother of an Airman - who happens to be female."
To me your daughter is a proud American who I have much respect for.
May God bless her and all the men and women of our military.
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posted on
10/03/2003 10:40:02 AM PDT
by
PigRigger
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To: dandelion
They don't get it.
They seem to think that there is some agenda behind ladies like your daughter signing up. Something beyond love of country.
In their own very mis-guided way they are trying to "protect" her from this "agenda".
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posted on
10/03/2003 10:41:50 AM PDT
by
Harmless Teddy Bear
(The universe runs through the complex interweaving of energy, matter, and enlightened self interest.)
Comment #25 Removed by Moderator
To: sethhenschon
Nice post! Welcome aboard.
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posted on
10/03/2003 11:20:24 AM PDT
by
Mudbug
To: sethhenschon; First_Salute; metalcor; Spruce; SouthernFreebird; flyer182; Dante3; TADSLOS; ...
I'm sorry for my outburst. I apologize for my language, for it probably offended some. I truly appreciate the support you and others have shown - and the other parents I'm sure know how much our babies (for they are still our babies) mean to us, even in uniform. Everything.
latrans, you are still sacrificing today. Let me tell you how much it means to me that you went when called, when other would not go. I am sorry about your friend. The heart does not let go easily, does it?
Those who speak unkindly of the dead do not understand what has been given so they might speak as they do...
If they could only know what jewels, men and women, are offered up daily as sacrifice for freedom; if they could only understand whose blood flowed so they might speak freely here;
If could only comprehend the hearts that were broken so they might live in liberty, they might speak more softly of the dead.
To: milemark
The death rate for women soldiers is the same as for men...one soldier...one death.
RIP Soldier. Stand your last roll call with honor and pride.
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posted on
10/03/2003 1:58:47 PM PDT
by
Redleg Duke
(Stir the pot...don't let anything settle to the bottom where the lawyers can feed off of it!)
To: First_Salute
Ill bet those fundraiser posts are inserted automatically..
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posted on
10/03/2003 1:58:59 PM PDT
by
cardinal4
(Hillary and Clark rhymes with Ft Marcy park...)
To: sethhenschon
May God bless all our servicemen and women, and keep them safe.Good post!
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posted on
10/03/2003 2:02:14 PM PDT
by
cardinal4
(Hillary and Clark rhymes with Ft Marcy park...)
To: dandelion
Sister your outburst was contained when compared to the words that try to leap out of me when people call my beautiful, proud, brave, honorable, dutiful daughter a lesbian because she feels actions speak louder than words.
You certainly have no need to apologize. May God bless you and your family.
May God comfort the families of the fallen.
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posted on
10/03/2003 2:43:14 PM PDT
by
Spruce
Comment #32 Removed by Moderator
To: Spruce
Thank you, my daughter says she is joining the Army for the sake of her 2 year old brother and 1 year old sister. If her abilities mean she could best serve in combat, then so be it. She has the right to serve as her God given abilities dictate. Opinions of others notwithstanding. And I will be proud despite those who would think her service is less worthy. Your language is mild the more I consider some of what I have read here.
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posted on
10/03/2003 8:41:28 PM PDT
by
metalcor
To: dandelion; Harmless Teddy Bear; Dante3; flyer182; SouthernFreebird; Spruce; metalcor
As the mother of an Airman - who happens to be female - I find this endless drivel about "lesbians" and "liberals" being tied to our military womento be absolutely horrific. A soldier died in defense of our country, and they can only smear her.I don't think any of us who object to women serving in the military in combat or combat support which exposes them to significant risk of being captured or killed are trying to smear the female soldiers themselves, but rather some radical feminist activists who promote the women in combat agenda from a position of safety far from the battlefield where they want other's daughters to die to further that agenda. Patriotic young women who wish to serve their country are due the same respect as the men who do the same. My only wish is that they be allowed to serve in support positions away from the actual fighting.
Unfortunatly, I don't recall who said this or where, but someone smarter than me said a while back that biology cannot be legislated and women do not have an equal opportunity to survive doing some of the same jobs as men in the military. Another smart person said that when a building is burning or a ship sinking, would we prefer the women getting out first or the men climbing over them to escape? When there are strange noises in the house at night, would we like to see the husband/father send his wife or daughter downstairs with the baseball bat or gun?
Let the brave patriotic young women who want to join the military serve where they are best able. They may have the heart to match the biggest, strongest male soldiers, but rarely if ever will they have the physical ability of even the smallest, weakest men. It is not fair to them to put them in a dangerous position that they are not as physically able to deal with as a man.
(This opinion does not reflect any disrespect towards any American soldier, male or female, or for anyone who holds any differing view.)
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posted on
10/04/2003 1:53:59 AM PDT
by
milemark
(Liberalism is wit's dimmer switch)
To: Prodigal Son
When will this insanity end?
What the war? As soon as we subdue the opposition, get an Iraqi led, democratic form of gov't set up and running and can leave the country without fear of it becoming the next Taliban run Afghanistan.Not the war, which is a necessary evil, but the use of women in certain military roles which they are unsuited for. Post #34 deals with this as clearly as I am able to.
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posted on
10/04/2003 1:59:55 AM PDT
by
milemark
(Liberalism is wit's dimmer switch)
To: All
Texans mourn woman killed in Iraq
By Laura King and Scott GoldLos Angeles Times
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS/DAVID J. PHILLIP
Agustin Esparza, front, is consoled by nephew Edgar Esparza after learning that his only child had been killed in Iraq.
(Analaura) ESPARZA
TIKRIT, IraqThe mournful notes of a solitary bugler blowing taps rose into the still desert air. In a final roll call, her name -- Analaura Esparza Gutierrez -- was intoned three times, with long pauses between, as if she might answer.
Hundreds of soldiers from the Army's 4th Infantry Division lined up in long, silent rows Friday to pay tribute to Esparza. The 21-year-old private first class was killed Wednesday when a bomb went off almost directly beneath the Humvee she was driving, ripping into her left leg and chest.
A member of a forward support company, she was returning to base after a supply run in Tikrit, Saddam Hussein's restive hometown.
A world away, in a tidy middle-class neighborhood outside Houston, where flowers line the sidewalks and every other house seems to have a basketball hoop in the driveway, the cries of a mother who has lost her only child echoed through a cul-de-sac Friday.
"Que paso?" Armandina Esparza screamed again and again. "What happened?"
Her husband Agustin, his red-rimmed eyes peering through bifocals, remembered "a good daughter, a brave daughter. She was proud of what she did, not because she was a woman, but because she was a soldier."
Analaura Esparza, known to her friends as Lissy, was the 315th American soldier to die in Iraq or Kuwait since the start of the war. She was also the fourth female fatality, and her death underscored the lack of distinction between traditional combat and support roles in a war whose front lines are everywhere and nowhere.
That is particularly true in places like Tikrit, where U.S. troops are aggressively hunting insurgents loyal to the deposed Iraqi leader. Throughout the volatile area, every American soldier leaving the gates of highly fortified U.S. compounds is under orders to consider himself -- or herself -- to be on combat footing.
http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/news/6932356.htm
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posted on
10/04/2003 5:32:22 AM PDT
by
milemark
(Liberalism is wit's dimmer switch)
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