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LOBBYING FAILS, H-1B VISA CAP FALLS to 65,000
TIMES NEWS NETWORK[ WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 01, 2003 12:53:47 PM ]via India TImes ^ | OCTOBER 01, 2003 12:53:47 PM | K YATISH RAJAWAT/ECONOMICTIMES.COM

Posted on 10/01/2003 9:39:39 AM PDT by 11th_VA

MUMBAI: The annual cap for H-1B visas will now be 65,000. This is a sharp drop from the earlier limit of 195,000 visas.

The US plans to enforce this rule from October 1, 2003.

The Indian IT industry has been lobbying hard to freeze H-1B visa limits at current levels. However, these efforts which had the support of some US corporations to retain H-1B visa limits have failed. (Will Europe be the next big hunting ground for Indian IT pros?)

Indian IT professionals are among the largest users of H-1B visas, as US Big Tech shops big from this technical pool. The H1-B visa cap was raised to 195,000 in 02. This particular legislation had a 'sunset' clause. According to this clause, the limit would have (automatically) lapsed on October 1, 2003. Ergo, the H1-B visa annual cap will now fall back to 65,000 visas.

The H1-B visa issue has generated a lot of controversy in the US. Several trade unions representing (local) technology workers have been lobbying against these work permits. The slowdown in the high-tech industry combined with an overall drop in US economic growth has resulted in a number of job losses.

H1-B visa users have been at the receiving end of criticism from unemployed American professionals for taking away their jobs. These visa users are also seen as representative of the trend towards offshore outsourcing trade jargon for moving to cheaper locations like India which is also under flak for spiriting away US jobs.

The visa was created in the early 1950s to give skilled foreign workers a permit to reside in the United States. The H1-B category was added in 1990 to give foreign workers an opportunity to pick up a job with the intention of remaining permanently in the United States.

In 1999, under pressure from high-tech companies and other manufacturers, Congress expanded the limit from 65,000 to 115,000. It raised the cap again to 215,000 in 00 and to 195,000 in 01 and 02.

Top Indian companies have been curtailing the use of H1-B visas for sending employees to the US. Ergo, it unlikely that the offshore outsourcing trend will be affected. Most companies have shifted to the use of L-1 visas (used for intra-company transfers). However, companies whose basic revenue model is supplying manpower to US corporations, ( body-shoppers, are likely to be hit by this move.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: gat; h1b; h1bvisas; immigrantlist; l1visas; nafta; onetermpresident
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1 posted on 10/01/2003 9:39:40 AM PDT by 11th_VA
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To: 11th_VA
H1-B visa users have been at the receiving end of criticism from unemployed American professionals for taking away their jobs.

Man... how lame these people must feel. How embarrassing it would be to lose your job to some 3rd worlder because he's deemed more efficient than you, dollar for dollar. No wonder they need the government to try to ban people from competing with them.

2 posted on 10/01/2003 9:43:38 AM PDT by Texas_Dawg (Paleos and Naderites: anti-war, anti-capitalism, anti-Bush. And the difference in these 2 is what??)
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To: *immigrant_list; A Navy Vet; Lion Den Dan; Free the USA; Libertarianize the GOP; madfly; B4Ranch; ..
ping
3 posted on 10/01/2003 9:44:03 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: Texas_Dawg
No wonder they need the government to try to ban people from competing with them.

Shove it. The H1-B program's premise, that there is a shortage of IT workers, is no longer valid, so the program should be curtailed. If too many workers come in, it lowers the pay.

4 posted on 10/01/2003 9:45:55 AM PDT by dirtboy (CongressmanBillyBob/John Armor for Congress - you can't separate them, so send 'em both to D.C.)
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To: 11th_VA
LOBBYING FAILS, H-1B VISA CAP FALLS to 65,000 >>>>>>>>


GOOD !!!! it's PASTIME for the U.S. gov't to put U.S. CITIZENS FIRST.....
5 posted on 10/01/2003 9:46:24 AM PDT by txdoda ("Navy-brat")
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To: txdoda
LOBBYING FAILS, H-1B VISA CAP FALLS to 65,000 >>>>>>>>


GOOD !!!! it's PASTIME for the U.S. gov't to put U.S. CITIZENS FIRST

I couldn't agree more, with both statements.
6 posted on 10/01/2003 9:48:04 AM PDT by RiflemanSharpe
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To: Texas_Dawg
Not more efficient. For some, cheap labor is all that counts. Quality has gone downhill. And the American guy gets stuck cleaning up the mess they created. However, the CEO and other officers still gets their big fat bonuses for coming in under budget (but quality and extra time to clean up the crap can go to hell).
7 posted on 10/01/2003 9:48:30 AM PDT by BushisTheMan
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To: 11th_VA
Anyone care to wager that sometime in the next twenty days IBM, Apple or Microsoft will fund a new IT program for disadvantaged Hispanics in California? If they can't get their immigrant workers one way, they'll get them another.
8 posted on 10/01/2003 9:48:51 AM PDT by kingu (84% of liberal likely voters think Tom should stay in the race until the end.)
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To: 11th_VA
Cool. Spencer Abraham must be crying his eyes out over there in the Dept of Energy.
9 posted on 10/01/2003 9:51:28 AM PDT by skeeter (Fac ut vivas)
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To: Willie Green; Wolfie; ex-snook; Cacophonous; Jhoffa_; FITZ; arete; FreedomPoster; bwteim; ...
The Indian IT industry has been lobbying hard to freeze H-1B visa limits at current levels. However, these efforts which had the support of some US corporations to retain H-1B visa limits have failed.

Just so you know.

10 posted on 10/01/2003 9:52:39 AM PDT by A. Pole ("Is 87 billion dollars a great deal of money? Yes. Can our country afford it?" [Secretary Rumsfeld])
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To: Texas_Dawg
Man... how lame these people must feel. How embarrassing it would be to lose your job to some 3rd worlder because he's deemed more efficient than you, dollar for dollar. No wonder they need the government to try to ban people from competing with them.

It's not dollar for dollar - often more like dollar for 50 cents.
11 posted on 10/01/2003 9:53:50 AM PDT by adam_az
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To: 11th_VA
Very good news.
12 posted on 10/01/2003 9:55:43 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush
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To: 11th_VA
Have not been following the legislation on this.......Is this final.....the number of visas will be reduced?
13 posted on 10/01/2003 9:56:07 AM PDT by OldFriend (DEMS INHABIT A PARALLEL UNIVERSE)
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To: dirtboy
You also need to remember that T_D is a self admitted upper class/Pro-Illegal/Money at all costs type who cares nothing for the Average American or their families as long as he/she/it stays at the top. Read he/she/it's posts and you will get and idea where they stand in relation to the rest of us.
14 posted on 10/01/2003 9:56:32 AM PDT by JustAnAmerican
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To: 11th_VA
Most companies have shifted to the use of L-1 visas (used for intra-company transfers).

It appears that massive multi-national corporations have no allegiance to the interests of United States. Their loyalties seem to lie by-and-large with their, foreign boards of directors and with the political interests of their overseas investors.
15 posted on 10/01/2003 9:58:54 AM PDT by pyx
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To: JustAnAmerican
self admitted upper class

Oh please. Let's change thet to supposed upper class. Or maybe, wanna-be upper class.

16 posted on 10/01/2003 9:59:15 AM PDT by riri
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To: dirtboy
If too many workers come in, it lowers the pay.

Good. Cheaper stuff.

17 posted on 10/01/2003 10:00:13 AM PDT by Texas_Dawg (Paleos and Naderites: anti-war, anti-capitalism, anti-Bush. And the difference in these 2 is what??)
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To: Texas_Dawg
You think so? I know lots of guys who lost their jobs to the imports not because they were more efficient but because they were cheaper.

It's easy to train a foreigner to maintain a system that's been set up efficiently by a U.S. worker.

The scary part is that you agree with all the yahoos that think we need the illegals to "do the jobs no americans want to do".

18 posted on 10/01/2003 10:00:23 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush
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To: adam_az
It's not dollar for dollar - often more like dollar for 50 cents.

Exactly. Clearly they aren't worth what they are being paid once they are open to competition. That's pretty lame.

19 posted on 10/01/2003 10:00:52 AM PDT by Texas_Dawg (Paleos and Naderites: anti-war, anti-capitalism, anti-Bush. And the difference in these 2 is what??)
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To: OldFriend
Is this final.

Nothings ever final in Washington, but the original bill had a sunset provision to go back to 65,000 on Oct 1st. So that's where we are today, back to 65,000...

20 posted on 10/01/2003 10:01:16 AM PDT by 11th_VA (Ross was right !!!)
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