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Bush and the Media ("New tone" will cause 43 to lose)
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/lindachavez/printlc20031001.shtml ^ | 10/1/03 | Linda Chavez

Posted on 10/01/2003 7:49:18 AM PDT by GulliverSwift

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To: dwilli
Redneck headquarters?Please explain.
21 posted on 10/01/2003 8:17:45 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: GulliverSwift
And in August the Republicans will hold their convention in New York City.

Every nutcase Marxist democrat will be there for TV face time. The show will include Greenpeace fascists scaling buildings. Homos parading naked in the streets. Anarchists smashing windows. Pictures of Bush wearing a Hitler moustache. Hippies crapping in the streets. Banners calling for the death of Isreal. With a mass riot as a finalle.

All of America will see the demoncrats on parade...may you live in interesting times....
22 posted on 10/01/2003 8:18:08 AM PDT by sergeantdave (You will be judged by 12 people who were too stupid to get out of jury duty)
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To: theDentist
Yeah...but as Morris has pointed out, most of those others (Reagan, Clinton) were on the way up. It's a little more tenuous when you're on the way down...and Bush has been in a steady decline for a couple months now.
23 posted on 10/01/2003 8:18:12 AM PDT by cwb
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To: bluebunny
I agree with you on the present policy issues. He needs to be more of a fighter, and he needs to send people out to confront and defeat false allegations and assertions. What I was getting at is that money doesn't need to spent at this time on petty matters. Let the Democrats waste their money now on these things, and heavily outspend them during the re-election campaign.
24 posted on 10/01/2003 8:19:52 AM PDT by Enterprise
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To: Coop
Can you list for me all the things GWB has done to merit my vote:the gov't he has cut, the spending he has cut, the
times he has stood up to the democrats in congress, leave
the troops out of it, the success/failure in Afganistan or Iraq is not assured at this point. Name all of GWB's finer points that make me proud to call him a Conservative. Take all the time you need.
25 posted on 10/01/2003 8:20:27 AM PDT by dwilli
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To: theDentist
Why bother spending the money now on President Bush? He doesn't have a primary opponent, he's on the tube every day due to the power of the presidency and everybody knows his name.

When it's time--probably late spring of next year--they can start spending the money. And they WILL spend it.

26 posted on 10/01/2003 8:22:56 AM PDT by Catspaw
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To: GulliverSwift
Of course Linda Chavez is absolutely right. The problem is that her prescription doesn't fit the RNC "template". The template says that you let your opponents spend themselves into near-bankruptcy prior to the conventions, gain whatever ground they can on you (while you appear to stay "above the fray"), and then stage a big convention and make big media buys right up until election day. It's all predicated on the notion that the American people (especially the "undecided voters") are totally oblivious to politics until the nominating conventions and Labor Day. It's worked in 4 of the last 6 elections, but it sure aint foolproof (just ask Bush '41 what happened to his second term; then ask President Dole what happened to his first term).
27 posted on 10/01/2003 8:23:49 AM PDT by pawdoggie
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To: GulliverSwift
I don't care what the 'Rats think, but I won't vote for a Big Stupid Government president, like the one we've got. I want smaller, limited government, dammit, and the Republicans are running like hell toward Total Big Government. No way will I support that.
28 posted on 10/01/2003 8:24:33 AM PDT by Hank Rearden (Dick Gephardt. Before he dicks you.)
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To: Coop
Hey Coop~

I mean a thoughtful review of what's occurred the past three years, and what's ahead.

Here's a thought from Fred Barnes . . . "President Bush has two other factors working for him. One is the unpopularity of the Democrats. Mark Penn, the pollster for Bill Clinton, found recently that the percentage of Americans who identify with the Democratic party (32 percent) is the lowest since before the New Deal, 70 years ago. The other is President Bush's current condition. If he's even with Democratic rivals now, with recovery just beginning and a spate of bad news from Iraq, imagine where he'll be when the recovery sets in and Iraq quiets down. When President Bush gets there, the media will have a new word for him: "favorite."

HUA!

29 posted on 10/01/2003 8:25:20 AM PDT by w_over_w (Some people grin and bear it while others smile and do it.)
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To: GulliverSwift
I think she overlooks the fact that since 9/11 the standard newsbearers don't have the influence they once had.

Just for an example, look at CNN and MSNBC's ratings compared to Fox ratings.

Polls this far out as useless, the Dems are getting lots of "face time" because of their stupid debates.

From the Brit Hume interview the President hit the nail on the head. The Dems campaign right now is "I hate Bush", but when he goes one on one with the nominated Dem candidate, then it will be a different story (just remember the Gore/Bush debates.)

In the meantime just remember the words of John Paul Jones, "We have not yet begun to fight."

30 posted on 10/01/2003 8:31:16 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: Uncle George
Thanks for the heads up!
31 posted on 10/01/2003 8:34:00 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: LS
For another, you guys need to recall that EVERY TIME the Dems have attacked Bush, it backfires. I think there is a spiritual reason for this, but you are welcome to your own conclusions.

Backfires? Really? How do you explain Bush's ratings plummeting to 50%? Some of these charges, while not sticking to the Pres, ARE in fact tainting his image. He continues to refrain from fighting back at his own (and our) peril. Reticence to engage in combat is why I've dropped support for Cheney as VP, and would love to see Rice there... Frist and Hastert have equally been disasters... Thank God for DeLay and Talk Radio.

32 posted on 10/01/2003 8:37:07 AM PDT by NYC Republican
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To: w_over_w
You labor under the impression that Iraq WILL quiet down. I just talked to someone who recently returned and he said things really aren't going well at all and we will be there for who knows how long. In addition, this CIA leak is not going to go away. Things are not looking good, but it's true that we have a long time to go until the election.
33 posted on 10/01/2003 8:38:46 AM PDT by soothsayer99
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To: dwilli
"I would not mark that part of the ballot."

In Flori-duh, that would have meant an automatic vote for algore. ;p

34 posted on 10/01/2003 8:39:13 AM PDT by ntnychik
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To: dwilli
Can you list for me all the things GWB has done to merit my vote

Of course I can, even though we both know it will have little impact. You were around for all this stuff occurring, just like I was.

leave the troops out of it, the success/failure in Afganistan or Iraq is not assured at this point.

I'll do no such thing. We're at war against terrorists. This Administration, filled with brilliant and courageous people, knows that. Your "perfect economy" which may be miraculously created when you don't vote for Dubya won't last long when the Sears Tower is leveled and/or an entire airport is wiped out by chem/bio weapons. The offensive use of our troops is remarkable and courageous. And terrorists are finding out their training against cardboard cutouts may work well against daycare centers and ice cream shops, but it's not too effective against armored personnel carriers, helos and special forces.

Want some other conservative examples?
-He's restored some much-needed dignity to the White House.
-The President has cut taxes several times, returning my money to me.
-He's embarassed the impotent and terrorist-enabling United Nations.
-He's routinely nominated conservatives to seats on the bench (and don't even blame him for the filibusters).
-He's made America realize the value of life at all stages, and it's reflected in shifting cultural polling numbers.
-He has (more indirectly than directly) put in place a pro-2nd amendment atmosphere, though I think Sept. 11th gets much of the credit. But the NRA is pleased with its gains over the past three years, including several concealed carry laws.

Now I'll wait for you to ignore all these statements, which directly answer your question, and go straight to other areas which you're ticked off about. And in the end, if you look at the big picture, you'll realize how silly it would be to not re-elect this man.

35 posted on 10/01/2003 8:39:54 AM PDT by Coop (God bless our troops!)
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To: GSWarrior
It was PeROT, that sucked away the far tight(talk about stupids) from Bush. Clinton had no chance with out (there coming to take me away)PeROT.
36 posted on 10/01/2003 8:42:23 AM PDT by stubernx98
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To: Catspaw
Why bother spending the money now on President Bush? He doesn't have a primary opponent, he's on the tube every day due to the power of the presidency and everybody knows his name. When it's time--probably late spring of next year--they can start spending the money. And they WILL spend it.

You don't have to spend money... The next time there's a debate, you should have Cheney, Rice, and Powell, and perhaps Frist and Hastert on all major news shows showing the counterpoint...

It's easy... 2 things, and 2 things only...

1. Challenge the Dims on the lies. Cite specific lies (there should be plenty to choose from) and press the media to ask the questions, directly confront the candidates.

2. Raise the point that the media gives the Dims a free ride. Ask the media "why don't any of you ask the Dims how THEY would do things differently... How THEY would ensure the capture of UBL, SH, how THEY would deal with the WMD issue and terrorism in general...

Listen up fellow FReepers, many people are in fact sheeple, and they'll believe charges (lies/distortions/etc) if they hear them often enough, ESPECIALLY if they continue to go unchallenged...

Remember the the CUT in Medicare? No? Well, most Americans think that Newt wanted a cut, when in fact, he wanted a reduction in spending. The Dims would pound away at that theme constantly, NO Reps would challenge it, so... it became a De Facto cut im voters' minds.

This will continue until they fight back and challenge the lies.

37 posted on 10/01/2003 8:44:19 AM PDT by NYC Republican
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To: dwilli
That effectively puts you in the same camp with the Democrats; they are not going to vote for Bush either.

"It's the voters, stupid."

38 posted on 10/01/2003 8:46:14 AM PDT by Consort
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To: NYC Republican
Well, your "plummeting" ratings still haven't reached the low levels enjoyed by recent presidents like Reagan and Clinton at the exact same time in their 3d term, so from that stand point I'd call the strategy a success.

Most of the polls that came out last week actually stabilized, and two rose.

I agree Frist is a disaster, but I think Hastert has been quietly effective. You certainly can't blame the House for failing to move most of the conservative agenda forward.

The real dilemma is that no conservative, including Bush, can "do" the kinds of things with government that would give him the publicity that generates news. The tax cuts have to work their magic, Iraq will continue to pacify, and so on. He could, and should, take an activist stand on border control immigration.

Nevertheless, Rove and the WH team are not undefeated in four election cycles, including two in Texas, one mid-term, and 2000. I trust them, more than Freepers, to know what they are doing. Whatever they think they have in the "new tone," the final fact is that it IS Bush. He isn't going to change, and apparently Rove and others think this is a key to winning.They said a year ago, when Bush's ratings were in the 70s, that the election would be close. Many here thought they were sandbagging, but I learned my lesson on that in 2000.

39 posted on 10/01/2003 8:46:18 AM PDT by LS
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To: soothsayer99
You labor under the impression that Iraq WILL quiet down.

If reading Fred Barnes constitutes "labor" so be it. Don't know who your "source" is for things not going well in Iraq but it pales in comparison to the troops returning for R&R, from independent groups peforming evals and from unbiased media sources. "The enemy in Iraq is minuscule: a few thousand Baathist diehards allied with Islamic terrorists. They are capable of nothing more than hit-and-run attacks. Roughly 90 percent of Iraq is reasonably secure and stable . . . and though press reports stress the negative, only 70 Americans have been killed in the past four months.

Seems to me the LABOR is from a hate mongering media trying to persuade Americans that we're failing. I'm not persuaded . . . are you?

40 posted on 10/01/2003 8:46:33 AM PDT by w_over_w (Some people grin and bear it while others smile and do it.)
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