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The Orange County Register ^ | September 26, 2003 | Keith Sharon

[DrewsDad]

IIn #17, you posted:
Your statement: "Principled People won't vote for Arnold because he isn't a 'real' Republican."

Now if you are claiming that he actually did a line strike through "real", is your post a lie?

[bushfamfan]

Yeah, right, Ventura. And he's a political jerk too. I'm so sick of Independents or others acting as if they're above the political fray. They're part of it too.

[DrewsDad]

Your point?

My real point is that you are not gaining any converts by attacking people this way. Instead of providing good positive arguments for your side, you are ridiculing others which does nothing to convince the 44% of FReepers leaning toward McClintock.

[BibChr]

My points are easy to understand, if you're willing.

He perverted my post to read, "Principled People won't vote for Arnold because he isn't a Republican."

That is actually TWO lies. I dealt with it at first contentfully. But you can't have a real conversation with a liar.

That's simple enough.

Dan

[Dead Corpse]

I've rebutted your idiocy. If pro-gun control, pro-abortion, pro-illegal immagrant political stances are now what it means to be a "Republican", then count me out.

Your attempt to slander those more conservative than you by calling us "scorched-earthers" is reprehensible and was the first shot in this little flame war.

Get over it.

[DrewsDad]

So is your post #17 a lie or a mistake?

[BibChr]

Not my post.

Look, if you just want to argue, please, I am asking you -- bother someone else. PLEASE don't pretend to be doing a dialogue when you aren't willing to do what it takes to dialogue.

Dan

[DrewsDad]

You are the one calling someone a liar when you change what they meant by the term "Republican" or judge it by your own standard concerning reasons for supporting one candidate over another. I was just playing your "lie" game with you to prove a point. See my post #43 for my real reason. I respect your opinions but not the tactics you are using.

[BibChr]

Look, you have apparently simply misread. I haven't the time to go back and review what's sitting out there for God and everyone to see. Do it yourself, or drop it, please.

But you're mistaken.

Dan

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[DrewsDad]

Post #11(DeadCorpse):
Scorched-earthers Principled People won't vote for Arnold because he isn't a "real" Republican. Post #18(BibChr):
Your statement: "Principled People won't vote for Arnold because he isn't a 'real' Republican."

Technically speaking, you modified DeadCorpse's quote, then proceeded to label him as a liar because of your technical definition that a Republican is someone who registers as a Republican instead of a 'real' Republican. Now, was it a mistake or a lie for me to identify your statement as being from post #17 instead of #18?

[myself6]

I don’t think he was a Seal. He was EOD (explosive ordinance disposal) they are NOT the same thing by ANY stretch of the imagination.

[BibChr]

I should have dropped "real," so he's saying that Schwarzenegger isn't a Republican, which is a lie, and which I already responded to. So everything I said, including calling him a liar, was absolutely correct and accurate and true, I just left a word in that did not change my point one iota.

And THAT is what you felt you had to waste all my time for?

PLEASE LEAVE ME ALONE.

Did you read that one okay?

Dan

[EveningStar]

Time out, folks! LOL!

[Republican Red]

With friends like this.....

However, I'll always like Jesse because of his stand against the Democrats after the Wellstone Funeral-rally. Not only did he walk out on the Funeral-rally but he was on every network slamming their behavior.

[DrewsDad]

Matt. 7:2

[BibChr]

1 Chronicles 1:1

Get another hobby.

[DrewsDad]

Have a good day Dan(and stop calling people liars).

[Dead Corpse]

I would, but I can't stand it when people think that all it takes to be a Republican, is to pop and (R) behind their name. As another FReeper mentioned on a different thread, Ronald Reagans "80% rule" is an excellent litmus test.

Arnold isn't even 80%. He's barely 60% just going by the issues he has posted on his website. Way back when I was in High School, 60% was a failing grade.

Then to be called a LIAR on top of it? Them thar's fightin' words...

[BibChr]

I'll continue never to call someone a liar who isn't a liar. Promise!