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The problem is that Catholics want to claim that all of what they call apostolic teaching was held by every generation yet they do not wish to prove that all of what they call apostolic teaching was held by every generation, especially the early church.

I like the parts about indulgences and purgatory - they're swell. And then there's that ugly thing called the inquisition; shhhh - be vewy vewy quiet - I'm hunting pwotestants. And, at one time, weren't there actually three Popes (one in France, one in Italy, and one appointed by another council)?

[Clintons a commie]

I like the parts about indulgences and purgatory - they're swell. And then there's that ugly thing called the inquisition; shhhh - be vewy vewy quiet - I'm hunting pwotestants. And, at one time, weren't there actually three Popes (one in France, one in Italy, and one appointed by another council)?

None of that disproves the ancient belief among Christians in Purgatory, the Papacy, etc. As far as the Inquistion goes, yeah, not our best moment. But the destruction of monasteries and church properties, and the burning of "witches", doesn't exactly put Protestantism at it's infancy in the very best light either.

[wideawake]

I like the parts about indulgences and purgatory - they're swell.

Whether or not you testify to their "swellness", you can't erase their truth.

And then there's that ugly thing called the inquisition; shhhh - be vewy vewy quiet - I'm hunting pwotestants.

The Inquisition wasn't in the business of hunting anyone, let alone Protestants. Especially since the Spanish Inquisition was founded 40 years before Martin Luther put up his flyer.

And, at one time, weren't there actually three Popes (one in France, one in Italy, and one appointed by another council)?

No, there was one legitimately elected Pope and two pretenders to the office.

[Aquinasfan]

I like the parts about indulgences and purgatory - they're swell.

You'd see it in the Bible if you weren't using Luther's abridged version. By what authority did Martin "Bible Alone" Luther remove five books from the Bible?