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Court Says No to Religious Gifts in School: 4-year-old had no right...
Focus on the Family ^ | September 22, 2003 | Gary Schneeberger

Posted on 09/24/2003 4:08:51 PM PDT by Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS

Third U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals finds that 4-year-old had no right to give classmates pencils that said "Jesus loves the little children."

A federal appeals court has forbidden children as young as 4 to give gifts bearing religious messages like "Jesus loves the little children" to their classmates during classroom activities.

A three-judge panel of the 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, which covers Pennsylvania and New Jersey, found late last month that such gifts represent "student advocacy," according to its decision in a case brought by the parents of a 9-year-old boy against the Egg Harbor Township (N.J.) Board of Education.

Daniel Walz, then 4, touched off the controversy in spring 1998 when he brought pencils emblazoned with the message "Jesus loves the little children" — a heart symbol actually stood in for "loves" — to an Easter party in his pre-kindergarten class. His teacher confiscated the pencils and reported Daniel to the principal; Daniel's parents later sued, alleging violation of his right to free speech.

A Camden, N.J., U.S. District Court judge ruled against the Walzes in February 2002; the 3rd Circuit panel affirmed that ruling this past Aug. 27.

"This decision is probably one of the worst I've ever read," said John Whitehead, president of The Rutherford Institute, which is representing the Walzes. "What they're saying to schools in the 3rd Circuit is that you have total control and kids have no freedom at all."

The decision, Whitehead added, is at odds with the U.S. Supreme Court's precedent-setting 1962 Tinker v. Des Moines Community School District ruling, which famously found that public school students "do not shed their constitutional rights to freedom of speech or expression at the schoolhouse gates." In that case, the court ruled, in order to deny a student's free speech rights, a school "must be able to show that its action was caused by something more than a mere desire to avoid the discomfort and unpleasantness that always accompany an unpopular viewpoint."

"The only disruption here," Whitehead pointed out, "was the teacher who blocked (Daniel from handing out his pencils)."

The 3rd Circuit acknowledged the protections of the Tinker decision in its ruling, but found that they didn't apply to Daniel's gifts. In pointing out other examples where "a school's need to control student behavior will necessarily result in limitations on student speech," Chief Judge Anthony J. Scirica noted that "a quiet reading period necessarily requires silence."

Whitehead, who plans an appeal to the full 3rd Circuit and to the U.S. Supreme Court if necessary, said that in addition to tyrannically stifling free speech, the 3rd Circuit has taught "a real bad lesson in political science to children."

"In the schools kids should learn about the Constitution and freedom and rights so that when they go out in life they believe that and practice that and support other people in that," he told CitizenLink. "If you're taught in schools that you have absolutely no rights, there's no telling the kind of negative impact that will have in the future."

And that's why parents must not allow their children to get that message from this decision, according to Eric Buehrer, president of Gateways to Better Education, a national organization that helps students and educators better understand and appreciate the contributions of Christianity to society and the world.

Until the courts reach a final resolution in the Walz case, Buehrer said, there is much parents can do to expose their children's classrooms to biblical truths.

"The courts have already ruled on the appropriateness to come in and read kids the Christmas story or the Easter story," he explained. "Good News (Bible) clubs can get started after school — that's been settled by the Supreme Court, too.

"So this is not a hopeless situation. There are opportunities for Christian families to continue to make a difference."

FOR MORE INFORMATION
Gateways to Better Education has launched a project called "Tending the Garden of Your School" for parents seeking tips on how to bring a Christian influence to their child's school. To learn more, visit the organization's Web site.

(NOTE: Referral to Web sites not produced by Focus on the Family is for informational purposes only and does not necessarily constitute an endorsement of the sites' content.)


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
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I think that fear and hatred of conservatives and Republican animates a lot of Democrats more than support for their own party. The Democrats don't articulate a positive agenda you can get behind and affirmatively support. They preach hatred, anger and intolerance. Yet people who vote Democrat would never live their lives that way. For example, I suggested that Chuck ask his Democrat parents if they walk around the neighborhood handing out chunks of each paycheck. No one does that, yet they vote for people who take money out of everyone's paychecks and hand it out saying, "Vote for me!"

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The bottom line is this: There is no full answer to the problem of judicial tyranny short of impeachment. Many other proposals have been put forth over the years, and many others have been revived during the current debate, but none of them will serve as a complete solution under our current Constitution.163 Impeaching Federal Judges: A Covenantal and Constitutional Response to Judicial Tyranny

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1 posted on 09/24/2003 4:08:51 PM PDT by Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
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To: Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
This ruling is almost beyond belief. A student is not a school employee, and should have the right to express his/her opinions on religion.
2 posted on 09/24/2003 4:12:11 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle (uo)
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To: Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
She can't give out pencils that mention religion, but I bet in a few years, that same school will give her CONDOMS! and teach her how to use them...... It is the end of the world as we knew it..... sigh.....
3 posted on 09/24/2003 4:12:23 PM PDT by buffyt (Can you say President Hillary, the Hildabeast, Mistress of ALL Darkness? Me Neither!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
We've been discussing this issue (more or less) on this thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/988066/posts
4 posted on 09/24/2003 4:12:44 PM PDT by INVAR
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To: Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
Someone should send this to Hannity and O'Reilly.
5 posted on 09/24/2003 4:13:16 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle (uo)
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To: Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
Court after court and judge after judge, Americans are coming to terms with the fact that the American legal system is overpopulated by amoral and immoral scum. I'm surprised that these psychopaths didn't demand that the child be jailed for the temerity of acting in perfect innocent good faith as young children will.
6 posted on 09/24/2003 4:15:55 PM PDT by gaspar
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To: INVAR
Thanks! Very good related thread!
7 posted on 09/24/2003 4:16:19 PM PDT by Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
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To: INVAR
Sorry, it is actually on THIS thread:(although the other thread discusses the assault on religion in this country also):

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/986637/posts

8 posted on 09/24/2003 4:16:32 PM PDT by INVAR
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To: INVAR
I should have done a partial search on 'RELIGIOUS GIFTS'
9 posted on 09/24/2003 4:19:27 PM PDT by Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
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To: Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
Black Robbed thugs
usurping the legislative process
making law based on their personal opinons and bigotry
rather than decision based upon the rule of law...
These thugs have conspired- imo to take over the govt.
and the govt. seems to not care...
10 posted on 09/24/2003 4:19:58 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: joesnuffy
A few do Congress, the Court, and the Constitution and the remainder have the knowledge and lack the will.
11 posted on 09/24/2003 4:22:51 PM PDT by Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
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To: Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
Now imagine if the child was moslem...
12 posted on 09/24/2003 4:23:36 PM PDT by rudypoot
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To: Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
Did the kids have the educational ability to read the pencils?? If not, then the only problem here is the indoctrinator/teacher.
13 posted on 09/24/2003 4:24:01 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (I only ride my Harley on days with a "Y". Or special days, like if the Sun comes up.)
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To: Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
It is not that these judges are anti-religion, it is that they are anti-Christion. If the pencils had said "Allah Is Merciful" or "The Great Spirit Lives In The Wind And Trees," it would have been OK because they are not Christian.
14 posted on 09/24/2003 4:24:09 PM PDT by Tacis
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To: Steve_Seattle
The children are not attending school, their judges.
15 posted on 09/24/2003 4:24:23 PM PDT by chiefqc
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To: Steve_Seattle
Who says it has anything to do with religion? It was a pencil promoting diversity in Major League Baseball. Jesus Alou pencils, I tell ya.
16 posted on 09/24/2003 4:27:12 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
How in God's name does this ruling *not* violate that child's First Amendment Rights???
17 posted on 09/24/2003 4:28:16 PM PDT by Windcatcher
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To: rudypoot; Tacis
The American Textbook Council - Islam and the Textbooks
18 posted on 09/24/2003 4:28:40 PM PDT by Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
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To: joesnuffy
These thugs have conspired- imo to take over the govt. and the govt. seems to not care...

Neither do the People, or many Americans of so-called faith either.

Surest way to our complete subjugation and destruction.

A people who are lukewarm and do not care about their Rights, or would gladly trade them for safety, security and stuff.

19 posted on 09/24/2003 4:34:27 PM PDT by INVAR
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To: Windcatcher
How in God's name does this ruling *not* violate that child's First Amendment Rights???

It does.

20 posted on 09/24/2003 4:35:12 PM PDT by Luke Skyfreeper
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