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We have a proud tradition of being one of the most ethnically diverse places in the world

Actually, that's one of the most recent developments in California's history. And it's a reaction to the reality of California's past - when California had some of the first and most onerous alien laws in the country. In fact, Earl Warren and the Brown family made political careers out of guilt tripping Californians for those laws.

And if by "ethnically diverse" you mean a majority Mexican population, I have no idea how that qualifies as "diversity". Sounds rather monotone to me.

See ya, Arnie. Deportation is an option, and is in fact our law (note the "our" part).

Funny how the California Recall candidates have basically come down to two illegal aliens and one American.

I'm planning on voting for the American.

Funny how the California Recall candidates have basically come down to two illegal aliens and one American.

I don't use the word "bigot" very often, but lines like this have be dusting it off. Or how about "nativist"?

As to the, uh, substance of your comment: Say what you will of Socialist Cruz (and it'd be welcome to hear criticism of him, rather than of Arnold, from McClintock stalwarts), but he was born here. As to Arnold being an "illegal immigrant," jeeze, where to begin? I think all who are fair-minded can agree he embodies the American Immigrant Dream, at least if we leave out his political ventures of late. The only drib-drab I've heard suggesting illegality relating to his pre-naturalization days is that he may have done gainful work during a time when his visa forbade employment. Even if that is true, it is only grounds for having rescinded his visa or otherwise penalizing him. It doesn't render his presence then, or his status now, illegitimate.

There is plenty to criticize in Cruz and in Arnold based on their policy proposals, from a pro-McClintock standpoint, without stooping to baldly ridiculous statements such as "illegal immigrant."

I'm not a fan of Arnold, but he ain't here illegally. My wife and two of my kids (adopted) are naturalized citizens - just like Arnold. The two kids are now in the US military - my son is in the Army & my daughter in the Marines.

I don't like Arnold's immigration policy (assuming it is coherent enough to be called a policy), but I respect his effort to become a US citizen.

There are steps that could be taken - I'm thinking of calling out the National Guard to patrol the border - but I see no sign ANY US politician will take any serious steps to curb illegal immigration.

Hey FRiend. FYI, as things stand right now, I vote for the other guy, but "I defend" your right to vote for who you choose.

I just wanted to ask you what you meant by "illegal" with regard to "two" candidates.

I also don't think the "debates" serve any of us well, if they become hate filled. We may have different ideological differences, but we all want to make sure it ISN'T MEChABustamante or DAVIS who win.

I'll take McClintock ~or~ Schwarznegger any day over those two!! God FORBID!! (I mean that in all seriousness!!)

Anyway.. I've known you for YEARS on this forum. I have to say this race has brought out some of the worst in people I honestly respect and have admired since we both joined this forum.

I think we all need to understand that we can agree to disagree at times. This situation is going to NEED to be one of those times.

But maybe we can try not to digress to name calling. I just can't see how that serves a purpose other than to help the DEMS win.

They have to be lurking and loving every minute of this.

In the end we will need to unite behind ONE candidate. Darrell Issa said so on Fox News today. Otherwise, we lose!! After the debate tonight he will campaign for just that. He will ENDORSE one candidate. He is waiting.. perhaps it would be prudent of all of us to do likewise. Just a thought.. and MHO.

FRegards FRiend

I'm planning on voting for the American.

If I were in California I'd do the same thing. McClintock is a true conservative who's not about to surrender the state or country to foreign invaders.

As far as I'm concerned Arnie can go back to Austria and take all ten million illegal aliens with him. And Senator McPain as well.

Deportation is an option

How are you going to find them? Don't get me wrong when they are found they should be deported, and cities/counties/states that don't fully cooperate should find their federal funds being cut. But it's not like they are walking around with a sign on saying illegal immigrant deport me.