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Kiss your house goodbye
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 | Neal Boortz

Posted on 09/15/2003 10:31:54 PM PDT by JohnHuang2

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Tuesday, September 16, 2003

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1 posted on 09/15/2003 10:31:54 PM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
There are also many other insidious groups trying to erode property rights, the foundation of America.

I read about state committees set up by socialists, under UN mandate, to seize private property for environmental reasons (bio zones?)

2 posted on 09/15/2003 10:38:57 PM PDT by At _War_With_Liberals (Post steak fry: I say it again...All Dems is PIMPS and HO'S)
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To: sauropod
ping!
3 posted on 09/15/2003 10:41:12 PM PDT by nutmeg ("The DemocRATic party...has been hijacked by a confederacy of gangsters..." - Pat Caddell, 11/27/00)
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To: At _War_With_Liberals
Another reason to vote straight Republican until further notice.
4 posted on 09/15/2003 10:42:52 PM PDT by Consort
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To: Consort
Another reason to vote straight Republican until further notice.

I won't disagree with you but it takes more than that, once they are elected their feet must be held to the fire.

Self governance is not a spectator sport.

5 posted on 09/15/2003 10:50:34 PM PDT by c-b 1
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To: At _War_With_Liberals
Do a google search on Agenda 21. See how many Agenda 21 cities there are in America. See how Agenda 21 is a plan to completely control the citizen, the enviroment and the economy through "sustainable development". See Agenda 21's roots in the World Socialist Party, who's former vice president, Gro Harmlem Brundtlandt, helpt to create during the 1987 UN Commission on Environment and Development. This is one of the ways communism has made so much headway in this country.

"Finally, in 1987, came the granddaddy commission of them all, The Brundtland Commission on Environment and Development. Chaired by Gro Harlem Brundtland, Vice President of the World Socialist Party, the commission introduced the concept of "sustainable development." For the first time the environment was tied to Socialist goals of international redistribution of wealth. Said the report, "Poverty is a major cause and effect of global environmental problems. It is therefore futile to attempt to deal with environmental problems without a broader perspective that encompasses the factors underlying world poverty and international inequality."

One world, one media, one authority for development, one source of wealth. One international army. The construction of a "just society" with political and social equality rather than a free society with the individual as the sole possessor of rights. It´s wrapped in Orwellian double-talk guaranteeing exclusive and universal power for a restructured United Nations. Welcome to the world of Commonism.

The New America in the New Global Order

In the wake of the euphoria following the fall of the Soviet Union and the Berlin Wall, Socialists wasted little time implementing their plans. The former Soviet Empire gave birth to a hoard of Socialist democracies. Western Europe fell in line, discarding the tradition of once-proud sovereign nations, forming the European Union with its common regulations, common currency and common Socialist agenda.

In the United States the agenda is moving forward faster than any Socialist could ever have hoped for. It has been expedited by President Clinton´s use of Executive Orders as he fully implemented "sustainable development" and moved to strengthen U.S. involvement and subservience to the United Nations.

Republicans, too, have embraced the agenda, proclaiming Commonism´s version of free trade as the vision of our founding fathers. When Republicans gained control of the Congress, Speaker-to-be Newt Gingrich agreed the lame-duck 103rd Democrat-controlled Congress should reconvene to pass the North American Trade Agreement (NAFTA).

A comparison of the NAFTA and GATT documents show them to be indistinguishable from the agenda outlined in the Brandt and Bruntland Commission reports from the 1980´s. Most Republicans continue to dismiss the United Nations as a threat to U.S. sovereignty. The double-speak of Commonism has lulled too many of them to sleep."

http://toogoodreports.com/spotlight/110100-td.htm
6 posted on 09/15/2003 10:55:43 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer
Great post.

"To the Socialist or Communist, democracy primarily means economic or social equality with or without parliamentary means. To the Socialist, if property, wealth, choice or communication need to be taken from one group in order to create "equality" for another, that is social democracy. In socialist philosophy, law becomes an instrument to advocate the redistribution of rights, riches, and property, in the name of equality to "enforce" a new international economic order."

That article was very good...
7 posted on 09/16/2003 12:36:51 AM PDT by At _War_With_Liberals (Post steak fry: I say it again...All Dems is PIMPS and HO'S)
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To: At _War_With_Liberals
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8 posted on 09/16/2003 12:41:23 AM PDT by At _War_With_Liberals (Concerned about globalism? PLEASE read http://toogoodreports.com/spotlight/110100-td.htm)
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To: Consort
"Another reason to vote straight Republican until further notice."

No doubt. Even when I didn't follow politics, I knew that was a given...
9 posted on 09/16/2003 1:12:02 AM PDT by At _War_With_Liberals (Concerned about globalism? PLEASE read http://toogoodreports.com/spotlight/110100-td.htm)
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To: JohnHuang2
The article was spot on in describing the effects of the problem, but ignored the problem itself. Many in this country blame Prop 13 and the follow-on statuates enacted across the United States following California's bold step in cutting the taxes paid by home owners.

Rather than curb their spending, lawmakers instead changed the system. Rather than making sure that the majority of city revenue came from property taxes, they changed it to a percentage of sales tax. In a very real manner, Prop 13 took away the incentive to make quality of life better by not giving the city additional tax revenue to match the efforts. IE: Why build a hundred acre park for public enjoyment when you won't get as much additional tax revenue from it when you can use that same hundred acres to build big box stores and get that added revenue in return.

How can this change? You got me. Aside from tossing out Prop 13 (which I don't like the idea of) there's no real measurable increase that cities can get for improvements to quality of life. They get rewarded for huge shopping centers with more money to spend and don't get rewarded for large parks, so of course they build shopping centers.

We faced that issue in our city. There was a plot of land that a large number of people wanted to turn into a park. It would drastically improve the quality of life. The city wanted to build a huge shopping center on the site. Because of geographical considerations, the area was disconnected from a large percentage of the city, and while the opponents were able to force the city to put the issue up for a vote, the people voted for the additional tax revnue and now we have a Sam's Club, Home Depot, Kohls, auto dealerships, etc on the property.

Home values in the area have dropped, but the city feels no effect from that, only from the increase of sales tax collected. Even with the drop in home values, because many of the homes in the area have been owned for many years, the city doesn't feel any loss, since people still pay the purchased price value in property taxes and it is not reduced or increased from their efforts. Additionally, when the homes are sold, they get the bonus of the sales taxes for a home that has mostly dramtically increased in value.

The system needs a good looking over to determine if this is what is really desired, and no sound bite will ever offer a good solution.
10 posted on 09/16/2003 1:31:32 AM PDT by kingu (I'm voting for Arnold, if I'm allowed to.)
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To: nutmeg; sauropod
You beat me to it. ;D
11 posted on 09/16/2003 1:35:04 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: At _War_With_Liberals
Don't forget about the Nature Conservancy (the Federal Governnment's Real Estate Broker) and the friendly folks at Club Sierra.
12 posted on 09/16/2003 4:32:56 AM PDT by sauropod ("Oh Brian, Let's go to the stoning")
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To: sauropod
Property taxes are bad enough. You 'own' your land. But if you do not pay the govt shakedown, they will take and sell the land.
13 posted on 09/16/2003 4:41:40 AM PDT by At _War_With_Liberals (Concerned about globalism? PLEASE read http://toogoodreports.com/spotlight/110100-td.htm)
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To: JohnHuang2
Good post my man. He really makes a very precient point when he points out that your property is actually your life materialized.

After knowing you a while JH, I've discovered you're a closet property rights freak. This tells me you "get it".
14 posted on 09/16/2003 4:43:21 AM PDT by AAABEST (I phoned the pest control department and their response was to send me a leaflet)
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To: hedgetrimmer
One international army.

If there is only one international army, who do they propose to fight? Why the citizens(serfs) of course! All those clamoring for this thinking that it will bring peace, don't realize they are empowering their oppressers and painting targets on themselves.

15 posted on 09/16/2003 4:55:30 AM PDT by StriperSniper (The slippery slope is getting steeper.)
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Kent Cagle, City Manger of Duncanville, 972.780.5017

Freep this fool!
16 posted on 09/16/2003 7:03:10 PM PDT by Rocky Mountain High
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To: AAABEST
Why, thank you, friend. Great Neal Boortz fan here, too :-)
17 posted on 09/16/2003 11:14:45 PM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
"They don't have the option to say no to us. We have made it clear we want that property. The only thing that will be settled in court is how much we have to pay for it."

Oh they have options Mr. Cagle. They have options you apparently haven't dreamed of.

Perhaps the price will be higher than Mr. Cagle imagined.

I certainly hope so.

L

18 posted on 09/16/2003 11:20:31 PM PDT by Lurker ("To expect the government to save you is to be a bystander in your own fate." Mark Steyn)
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Here's another bit of information about our fascist amigo, Mr. Cagle.

He can be found here, every Friday:"We meet for lunch every Friday at 11:45 A.M. at Dr. Pepper Star Center, Corner of Hwy. 67 and Main Street in Duncanville."

Information graciously provided by the Duncanville Lions Club in the Public Domain.

Any Texas Freepers available this Friday?

Just a thought.

L

19 posted on 09/16/2003 11:38:11 PM PDT by Lurker ("To expect the government to save you is to be a bystander in your own fate." Mark Steyn)
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To: JohnHuang2
FYI:

Here's Mr. Cagles contact info:

City Manager Kent Cagle 972-780-5017 kcagle@ci.duncanville.tx.us

Have fun.

Regards,

L

20 posted on 09/16/2003 11:56:46 PM PDT by Lurker ("To expect the government to save you is to be a bystander in your own fate." Mark Steyn)
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