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Microsoft themselves claimed (in court) that IE was an integral and unseparable part of Windows

They might have made that claim but the court didn't buy that argument. The court went so far as to order MS to disintegrate them. So try again.

If you want to attribute them as Linux security problems, then they are potential Windows security problems as well -- even though they are not Microsoft products.

Get real. Mozilla and Apache and Netscape aren't distributed on Windows disks. But they are distributed with Linux.

Get real. Mozilla and Apache and Netscape aren't distributed on Windows disks. But they are distributed with Linux.

But AOL is... So if there's a problem with AOL software, you blame Microsoft for it?

Mark

Mozilla and Apache and Netscape aren't distributed on Windows disks. But they are distributed with Linux.

As a technical nit, they frequently aren't distributed with Linux unless you are using a version intended for desktop usage. Server distros tend to be very sparse. We use a Debian variant, which I despise, but then I don't have to admin the things so I let them do what they want as long as it isn't inherently stupid. There is virtually zero software on the server, just enough to bootstrap the box; the rest we build later from checksummed tarballs.

They might have made that claim but the court didn't buy that argument. The court went so far as to order MS to disintegrate them. So try again.

Microsoft, arguing that the Internet Explorer code is completely integrated with Windows, has said the only way it can comply with Jackson's 1 December order is to offer a version of the operating system that does not function.

Even though the court disagreed, who am I to argue with Microsoft?

Get real. Mozilla and Apache and Netscape aren't distributed on Windows disks. But they are distributed with Linux.

Actually, Netscape was distributed with Windows by several OEM's for a while. The OEM's are the closest analog to companies like RedHat that package the Linux kernel with other open software products into a single distribution. Under your rationale, since Netscape is "part of Linux", it was "part of Windows", too.

But, if the packager is the responsible party, IIS was packaged with Windows, as well: at least in the Windows 2000 distribution (I haven't looked for it on the WinXP distribution). I've already said that I didn't consider IIS an integral part of Windows, but by your definition it would be.

No they are distributed with REDHAT, not linux. Redhat puts together many free apps you **can** as in have a choice to install and unless you count those vulnerabilities on windows for the cross platform applications any comparison is invalid. My windows desktop at work is running apache and filezilla so I can serve documents to the other engineers and do some php testing. When a bug comes out for Apache not only do I need to check my Linux production server I have to patch my desktop..