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They are included in most Linux distributions. They aren't Linux, or even part of Linux, at least in terms of who is "responsible". They are maintained by separate teams of developers, and blaming "Linux" would be like blaming Microsoft for a bug in Photoshop.

Of course, that doesn't stop your side from lumping vulnerabilities in IE or Outlook or IIS into Windows. You want your cake and eat it, too -- decrying "Windows" vulnerabilities and simultaneously claiming that any vulnerability that isn't in the Linux kernel isn't Linux. Pathetic weasels.

Of course, that doesn't stop your side from lumping vulnerabilities in IE or Outlook or IIS into Windows.

Microsoft themselves claimed (in court) that IE was an integral and unseparable part of Windows

Personally, I wouldn't claim that IIS is part of Windows, even though it was on the Windows distribution disk(s). It took a separate, overt action on the part of the user to install it.

However, the problem with comparing a Windows-only application from Microsoft to an open source application that happens to run on Linux is that Linux is usually only one of the supported platforms.

In only a quick scan, I can identify several of them that also run on Windows: Mozilla, Ethereal, PHP, Apache, VNC, Lynx, Netscape, MySQL, and Ghostscript all have Windows source and binary distributions, although I don't know if they were exploitable. If you want to attribute them as Linux security problems, then they are potential Windows security problems as well -- even though they are not Microsoft products.

Of course, that doesn't stop your side from lumping vulnerabilities in IE or Outlook or IIS into Windows. You want your cake and eat it, too -- decrying "Windows" vulnerabilities and simultaneously claiming that any vulnerability that isn't in the Linux kernel isn't Linux. Pathetic weasels.

As usual, b2k convieniently fails to take into account that it was microsoft that claimed IE was a part of the core OS in front of a federal judge.

I guess it's o.k. to lie if it's for the cause of spreading MSFud.