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MSNBC- Recall election to be delayed
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Posted on 09/15/2003 10:18:32 AM PDT by Ragirl

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To: Peach
if you call at night, you can call for free if you have a cell phone
801 posted on 09/16/2003 4:45:36 PM PDT by votelife (Free Bill Pryor)
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To: votelife
I didn't know you could call for free at night - that's good news.
802 posted on 09/16/2003 4:57:48 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Peach
most of the Senators will let you leave messages
803 posted on 09/16/2003 5:09:04 PM PDT by votelife (Free Bill Pryor)
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To: singsong
What do you call a lawyer with an IQ of 80 ?

" Your Honor ."

804 posted on 09/16/2003 7:07:42 PM PDT by lawdog
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To: singsong
What do you call a lawyer with an IQ of 80 ?

" Your Honor ."

805 posted on 09/16/2003 7:08:19 PM PDT by lawdog
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To: jethropalerobber
FYI

Virtually 100 percent of California's population explosion between 1990 and 2000 (and continuing through 2002) was the result of a massive inflow of immigrants and births to immigrants, not from internal growth, according to two separate studies," said the findings of an analysis commissioned by Californians for Population Stabilization, or CAPS, a nonprofit group dedicated to stricter management of the state's population size.

According to U.S. Census Bureau figures, California – the most populous state in the union – grew from 29.8 million people in 1990 to 34 million-plus in 2000. The study's authors concluded that rate of growth of about 4 million was "greater than the combined increase in population of all the northeastern states from Maine to Virginia during that same period."

And, the study says, the state's population will double again in 40 years at the current rate of growth.

"A number of things are very clear from these vitally important studies," says Dr. Diana Hull, Ph.D., president of CAPS. "The first and most important is what we all know in California – we are in the midst of a population crisis that is already affecting virtually every aspect of life in our state and which is only going to get worse.

"The second finding that nobody in California wants to talk about, due to political correctness, is the underlying cause of our problem, which is totally uncontrolled immigration and the high fertility rates associated with major immigrant groups," she continued. "Stop immigration and we'll be on the way to saving our quality of life; do nothing and we will soon reach the limits of livability.

"And third, there is a message of hope in the findings," she added. "The first step in fixing any problem is determining the cause, which we have now established conclusively. Now it's up to Californians to have the courage to address this growth crisis head-on."

The group has said too much immigration has added to the "myriad" of California's problems, not the least of which is financial.

The Washington Post reported Monday state lawmakers and Gov. Gray Davis, a Democrat, faced an overnight deadline to solve the state's $38 billion budget deficit, one which wasn't met. Without a budget that would include a number of new tax increases – something minority Republicans have refused to sanction – schools, state agencies, colleges and nursing homes could begin facing financial crises of their own.

Davis "and his allies have gotten the last three budgets they wanted and we're nearly bankrupt," said James L. Brulte, the Republican leader in the state Senate, who has threatened to work against the re-election of any GOP colleague who sides with Davis in the budget battle.

California's economy has been rated the seventh-largest in the world. It's deficit is larger than any other state budget, with the exception of New York, and represents about one-third of the state's annual spending.

Republicans say Democrats are to blame for the state's budget woes, since California has essentially been under one-party Democratic rule for years.

"Somebody has to stand up and say enough is enough. That's what Republicans in California are doing," Brulte told the Post.

CAPS says immigration is a big part of the state's financial problems.

"Traffic congestion, schools, the water crisis and the state's record … budget shortfall have all emerged … because there are too many people for the state's now beleaguered resources," said CAPS.

"The crisis in which California finds itself today is just the beginning of a population nightmare that will continue to worsen unless immigration is slowed considerably or brought to a halt," the group said.

Other experts and lawmakers agree.

"The problem of illegal immigration continues to grow in California," says U.S. Rep. John Doolittle, R-Calif., a member of the House Immigration Reform Caucus.

One research group, the Federation for American Immigration "This large-scale population growth is bringing traffic, (illegal immigration cost California taxpayers $8 billion)."

I've lived in Calfornia since 1960 we have reached critical mass due to the cost of illegal immigration and the endless government entitlement programs.About 1/4 of our prison and jail populations are illegals.The liberals and the "mexican lobby" are the racists.

806 posted on 09/17/2003 6:34:31 PM PDT by lawdog
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To: lawdog
that's a hell of a long post to not include a single piece of information about immigrants uniformly applying for "unemployment, food stamps, and welfare", as the original poster cowardly implied.

if california offers to many services, cut them, don't scapegoat immigrants.

807 posted on 09/20/2003 2:18:32 PM PDT by jethropalerobber
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To: jethropalerobber
They get medi-cal, their kids go to public schools . The system is rife with fraud, ever been in a mill that makes phoney SSN cards etc. for the illegals ? How about the forged green card business ? Know anything about that ? Stories about the fraud involving "aliens" have even been on broadcast tv. As to the prisons etc. the CDC has a special " regional division" to supervise illegal alien felons that are not supposed to be here.You obviously don't live in California. It doesn't matter if they "uniformly apply" or not the results are bad. There is a difference between an immigrant and an illegal alien.
808 posted on 09/20/2003 8:41:54 PM PDT by lawdog
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To: jethropalerobber
They get medi-cal, their kids go to public schools . The system is rife with fraud, ever been in a mill that makes phoney SSN cards etc. for the illegals ? How about the forged green card business ? Know anything about that ? Stories about the fraud involving "aliens" have even been on broadcast tv.

As to the prisons etc. the CDC has a special " regional division" to supervise illegal alien felons that are not supposed to be here.You obviously don't live in California. It doesn't matter if they "uniformly apply" or not the results are bad. There is a difference between an immigrant and an illegal alien.

809 posted on 09/20/2003 8:42:24 PM PDT by lawdog
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To: lawdog
There is a difference between an immigrant and an illegal alien.

no doubt.

but the cowardly bigot i was originally responding to wasn't referring to either group you mention; he was just denigrating minorities in general.

btw, you're correct that i don't currently live in california, as my profile page reveals.

810 posted on 09/22/2003 9:40:12 PM PDT by jethropalerobber
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To: lawdog
thanks for the info.
811 posted on 09/22/2003 9:41:38 PM PDT by jethropalerobber
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