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Thousands of federal jobs may go abroad, U.S. says
Statesman ^ | 9/11/03 | Marilyn Geewax

Posted on 09/11/2003 12:43:15 PM PDT by Mark Felton

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To: MissAmericanPie
he will be a one term president, unfortunately the democrat will be worse.
we're being sold out by the whores we elect and i don't see any way out of this. the US is fast becoming a third world country.
61 posted on 09/11/2003 3:42:26 PM PDT by contessa machiaveli
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To: Joe Hadenuf
You're right, Joe. I wonder how many illegals this country can absorb without self-destroying. Are we committing national suicide?
62 posted on 09/11/2003 3:54:20 PM PDT by SamiGirl
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BTTT
63 posted on 09/11/2003 4:01:23 PM PDT by Fraulein (TCB)
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To: EagleMamaMT
I'm beginning to think GWB doesn't want a second term

I never got the impression he cared much one way or the other. In fact during the election debacle, I was so afraid he was just going to fold his cards and go back to Texas.

64 posted on 09/11/2003 4:40:00 PM PDT by riri
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To: contessa machiaveli
he will be a one term president, unfortunately the democrat will be worse

Yeah, the democrat is going to be worse. We still won't have any jobs plus we won't have a military or national security to boot.

The gay issue, the black issue and the air quality will be our biggest obstacles to overcome.

65 posted on 09/11/2003 4:42:38 PM PDT by riri
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To: Mark Felton
They're selling America to the lowest bidder. When the government can't afford the labor of it's own citizens something is horribly wrong. Why does Bush hate the middle class?
66 posted on 09/11/2003 4:44:25 PM PDT by searchandrecovery (It just doesn't matter. It just doesn't matter.)
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To: meadsjn
"And the country itself will be history within two years."

Hell, I'm ready. I'd rather get it over with sooner than later, anyway. Quit prolonging the agony, you know?

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

67 posted on 09/11/2003 4:47:36 PM PDT by wku man (Today is not Patriots' Day...April 19th is, in rememberance of The Shot Heard Round The World.)
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To: harpseal
"I suggest that the US Customs Department charge a $1,000-per-container inspection fee on every container entering the United States. This fee would be used to completely fund the cost of inspections. ... At 40-hour weeks plus benefits, I estimate the cost per worker to be over $75,000 per year, all paid by the foreign manufacturers. Even so, this would still leave over $2.25 billion to cover all other costs. Any revenue not used would be used to compensate American workers displaced by foreign imports."

Couple of problems. First, if the purpose of the inspection is to prevent WMD from entering the US, our ports of entry are the last place to conduct the inspection. It's a little too late. You need to do that overseas before they enter the US. Second, the costs will not be paid by foreign manufacturers. They will be paid by US consumers. Corporations don't pay taxes, nor do they pay tariffs, they're only passed along to the consumer.
68 posted on 09/11/2003 5:05:03 PM PDT by DugwayDuke
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To: Mark Felton
The rich elitists in America have dropped all pretence that they care about the American people.
The dem, rep,ind, whatever polititians are all giving us the finger. All any of them care about is themselves.
Among polititians, politics is called "The Game That Never Ends".
They have screwed us over, time after time and have not had to pay any consequences for it.They now think they can do anything they want to and nothing will happen. They're mostly right.

America is fast becoming a godless, commie country.

69 posted on 09/11/2003 5:20:29 PM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get)
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To: DugwayDuke
it's rather sad that we, the president's base are turning against him, but he isn't giving us much. there's rampant illegal immigration,and payoffs to offshore corporations to continue to bleed the american workforce. my disillusionment is not self serving...i'm an editor specializing in rather esoteric manuscripts...my husband is a (ahem) lawyer. we'll always have our income, but i'm worried about the direction this country is going in and i'm petrified of the world my daughter will inherit. i can't help but be totally pessimistic.
70 posted on 09/11/2003 5:23:17 PM PDT by contessa machiaveli
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To: contessa machiaveli
Most of the posters on threads like these were never a part of President Bush's "base". Punitive tarfifs were never a part of Bush's campaign. Most of these posters were, and still are, "Patsy's Base".
71 posted on 09/11/2003 6:15:37 PM PDT by DugwayDuke
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To: At _War_With_Liberals
whistling past the graveyard bump
72 posted on 09/11/2003 6:18:56 PM PDT by Maximum Leader (run from a knife, close on a gun)
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To: DugwayDuke
Most of the posters on threads like these were never a part of President Bush's "base".

I voted for Bush I & II. Your comment is baseless (unlues you have some facts, big guy, which you don't).

73 posted on 09/11/2003 6:23:38 PM PDT by searchandrecovery (It just doesn't matter. It just doesn't matter.)
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To: searchandrecovery
Why does Bush hate the middle class?

Because he's a globalist just like his father. Never been anything else.

74 posted on 09/11/2003 6:52:23 PM PDT by Euro-American Scum
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To: Mark Felton
Bush also said that although there's a "down- side in the short term" when employers slash labor costs, "over the long term, productivity lifts Americans' wages."

If companies close, and nothing is produced, how again, is productivity increased?

Can you explain to me how we can make nothing and lift wages??

75 posted on 09/11/2003 7:04:24 PM PDT by RaceBannon (It is perfectly fine to kill people when you are defending yourself)
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To: Mark Felton
News to you??

2.1 million jobs lost in this recent downturn. Plus, "Over the past year and two months, we have seen the weakest manufacturing recovery from recession since the Federal Reserve started keeping tabs on such things back in 1919. The data show that since December 2001, manufacturing production has edged up only 1.6 percent, drastically slower than the first 14 months of the previous six recoveries when growth in manufacturing averaged 10.8 percent."

http://www.house.gov/smbiz/hearings/108th/2003/030409/jasinowski.html


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Thousands of federal jobs may go abroad, U.S. says




76 posted on 09/11/2003 7:07:21 PM PDT by RaceBannon (It is perfectly fine to kill people when you are defending yourself)
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To: searchandrecovery
I voted for Bush I & II. Your comment is baseless...

I voted for PJB against Bush I.

I don't know if that posters comments are baseless or not, but I do think that this article is baseless.

77 posted on 09/11/2003 7:12:25 PM PDT by FreeReign (V5.0 Enterprise Edition)
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To: SamiGirl
You're right, Joe. I wonder how many illegals this country can absorb without self-destroying. Are we committing national suicide?

Yes, our open borders and this U.S. government approved invasion of millions of people that continue to enter our in our country illegally, is the most dangerous, threatening issue facing America. If the President and the rest of those in DC continue to do nothing about this epic invasion, we will lose this country sooner or later.....

78 posted on 09/11/2003 7:38:07 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (What don't you understand about the word, "illegal"?)
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To: searchandrecovery
"I voted for Bush I & II. Your comment is baseless (unlues you have some facts, big guy, which you don't)."

My comment that most posters in this thread are members of the "Patsy Brigadier" base is based upon facts. Most posters on this thread are criticizing Bush because he is a "Free Trader" or a "Globalist" and has not adopted the "Fair Trade, Not Free Trade" rhetoric, positions, and policies advocated by "Patsy" Buchanan. If you have some "facts" that disprove this, then feel free to post them.

BTW, there are about a dozen new threads every day on FreeRepublic concerning Bush's Free Trade positions. I suggest you might find them useful in understanding why my comments are based upon facts.
79 posted on 09/12/2003 4:34:44 AM PDT by DugwayDuke
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To: ARCADIA
Arc,

I think the answer is we vote in replacement members to represent our views...

best, ampu

80 posted on 09/12/2003 5:31:36 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (... that's my story and I'm stickin' to it!)
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