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Say No To The Federal Homeschool Legislation
Home Education Magazine ^ | Sept. 2003 | Larry & Susan Kaseman

Posted on 09/08/2003 8:11:22 AM PDT by StarCMC

Aunt Tilly calls. "You know I support your homeschooling. But I just read an article about how homeschoolers are demanding special favors from the federal government. It's really not fair for homeschoolers to expect to be allowed to homeschool and still get everything kids in regular schools get."

From State Senator Reasonable you hear, "I've gone along with your notions about homeschooling laws over the years, and I know all three of your kids are doing well. But I'm concerned about families where the kids aren't learning anything. According to the federal bill that just passed, you homeschoolers are proud of how well your kids score on standardized tests. Senator You-Know-Who is getting a lot of pressure from the teachers union and social workers and is introducing a bill requiring you guys to take the same standardized tests that everyone else takes. Seems fair to me."

Then Oscar Keep-Em-In-Line, a local school official, sends you a letter: "According to our records, you have complied with state laws governing homeschooling. But under the new federal law, you are now required to submit your curriculum to my office for review and approval."

What's going on? This is an illustration of what would be likely to happen over time if the U. S. Congress passes H R 2732, a recently introduced homeschooling bill. The Home School Legal Defense Association (HSLDA) says it worked "with our friends on Capitol Hill to craft the language of this bill." HSLDA is presenting incorrect, misleading, and exaggerated claims for what the bill would accomplish. Even in the unlikely event that the bill brought a few small gains for homeschoolers, those gains would not be worth the risks of opening the door to federal regulation of homeschooling, creating a backlash against homeschoolers, and strengthening the power of the federal government.

Unfortunately, HSLDA has a strong presence in Washington, D. C., partly because their headquarters are near D. C. Therefore, it is very important that homeschoolers who do not support this bill contact their federal legislators. Otherwise, we could end up with legislation that undermines homeschooling being supported by legislators who thought they were helping homeschoolers.

This column discusses major difficulties created by the legislation as a whole. Then it examines the problems raised by specific provisions and suggests effective ways to oppose the bill.

Difficulties Created By The Bill

Increases Opportunities for Federal Regulation of Homeschooling

• This bill invites regulation of homeschooling by the federal government. After legislation becomes law, government agencies responsible for enforcing it write regulations that determine how the law will be enforced. These regulations have the force of law. Some provisions of this bill practically require that the federal government define homeschooling. (For example, see below.) This is the kind of definition and control of homeschooling that many homeschoolers have been working hard to prevent for over 20 years.

At present, the federal government has very little, if any, authority over homeschooling because virtually all authority in education resides with individual states, not the federal government. However, the federal government has gained some authority in education by requiring states to do certain things in order to receive federal funds. This means that the quickest way the federal government can gain authority over homeschooling is if homeschoolers ask for legislation or money. Unfortunately, the current legislation does just that. It's the first homeschooling bill that tries to get a piece of a wide variety of education programs. Such programs bring with them state-mandated testing, state standards for curriculum, requirements for diplomas, and definitions of what qualify as educational expenses.

• HSLDA's strategy moves homeschoolers closer to government-mandated standardized testing which would determine the content, structure, and beliefs of homeschools. HSLDA repeatedly cites studies that allegedly show that homeschoolers score well on standardized tests to prove that homeschoolers deserve the benefits the bill would grant. (For information about problems with the studies, go to http://www.home-ed-magazine.com/HEM/164.99/ja_clmn_tch.html) For example, the Findings section of the bill states, "(3) Education by parents at home has proven to be an effective means for young people to achieve success on standardized tests." Such reliance on standardized test scores implies that homeschoolers believe that such tests are reliable, that they're willing to take such tests and frequently do, and that requiring homeschoolers to take them would be reasonable. It also encourages people who think testing should be required of homeschoolers.

• This bill offers opponents of homeschooling (including powerful lobbyists such as the public schools and the teachers unions) a golden opportunity to add amendments they want without having to go through the work of initiating legislation. It's difficult to get a bill passed without major changes, especially for a small minority that has powerful opponents.

• Three of the six provisions in this bill concern federal money, which increases the risk of regulation. Whether the money comes directly as student financial aid or Byrd Scholarships or indirectly in the form of tax savings, "there's no such thing as a free lunch."

• HSLDA seems to recognize that this bill could lead to federal regulation of homeschooling, since it states in the section on Findings, "(7) The United States Constitution does not allow federal control of homeschooling." It is very simplistic to think that federal regulation can be prevented by such a statement, especially when the bill provides so many opportunities for regulation. In other words, the federal government does not have control over homeschooling right now, but if we hand it opportunities on a silver platter through legislation such as this, it will gain control.

Increases Power for the Federal Government

This bill would increase the power of the federal government over state governments, a development which many people oppose, realizing that it is unwise to look to the federal government to solve problems that can better be solved by individuals or through local or state government.

Undermines Gains and Increases Backlash

Many homeschoolers have gotten what they wanted or needed by negotiating with public officials, suggesting alternatives, and inventing new ways to meet requirements. These tactics generate a spirit of good will and cooperation. But HSLDA's strategy of shouting "Discrimination," focusing on technicalities in the statutes, and claiming part of the federal pie undermines much of what has been accomplished. Statutes can be important, to be sure, but they need to be viewed in the larger context of interactions among individuals and groups with differing needs and perspectives.

In addition, when two approaches are as different as conventional schooling and homeschooling, what one group sees as fair is likely to be seen by the other group as either unnecessarily restrictive or a special favor. Special favors are likely to generate a backlash against homeschoolers, especially from interest groups that feel they are competing with homeschoolers or losing money and prestige. (Four of the six provisions in this bill deal with money.) For an example, see the discussion below of responses to changes concerning college admissions and financial aid. Homeschoolers have worked hard to win the hearts and minds of the people. Without their understanding and support, it would be more difficult to maintain reasonable homeschooling statutes and policies. Do we want to risk this good will by allowing this legislation to go forward? In other words, this bill would undermine our homeschooling freedoms instead of increasing them.

Increases Dependence on Experts

As citizens, we have a much better chance to maintain our rights when we know what the law does and does not require and insist that officials respect our rights and not exceed their authority. (See IDEA below.) It is also much better to solve problems on the state and local level whenever possible than to expect legislators to pass laws that will solve them. Finally, it is a political reality that the stronger and more direct the language in a bill is, and the more clearly it protects or favors a small minority, the more likely competing interest groups (such as teachers unions) are to oppose it--rather like waking a sleeping giant.

Problems With Specific Provisions

Note: Bills can be changed quickly through amendments. Provisions discussed here may have been amended or deleted. For the current version of the bill, go to http://thomas.loc.gov/ and type in H R 2732.

College Admission and Financial Aid

The Higher Education Act (HEA) used to require that participants in federal student aid programs "have a high school diploma or a General Education Development (GED) Certificate, pass a test approved by the U. S. Department of Education, or meet other standards your state establishes that are approved by the U. S. Department of Education." Homeschoolers could (and still can) qualify by passing the ACT or SAT or earning a GED, which was not unreasonable, especially since most colleges require the ACT or SAT for admission. However, HSLDA worked to have the phrase "complete a high school education in a home school setting that is treated as a home school or private school under state law" added to the list of options for qualifying.

This addition prompted a backlash among conventional school students, college admissions officers, and others who felt it was unfair to grant part of the limited federal aid to homeschoolers who only had diplomas their parents had issued. Some schools interpreted Sec. 1001 (a) (1) of HEA to mean that if they admitted homeschoolers, they would not receive federal financial aid for any students. In response, some homeschoolers got the Department of Education to issue a notice in April, 2002, making it easier for colleges to admit homeschoolers.

According to The Chronicle of Higher Education, "College officials worry that lobbyists for homeschoolers will persuade Republicans in Congress and the Bush administration to require colleges to admit students who may not be adequately prepared, exposing the institution to lawsuits if they refuse to enroll them. These officials point to a letter that the Home School Legal Defense Association, a national lobbying group, sent to financial-aid administrators and admissions officers on the heels of the Education Department's notice. The letter stated that requiring home-schooled students to take extra tests to qualify for admission is 'considered discriminatory.' The letter demanded that 'all the barriers for home-schoolers seeking admission and financial aid must immediately be disregarded and revoked from the policy of your university.'" ("A Growing Force: In fight for federal student aid, home-school lobby has powerful friends," January 17, 2003, p. A19 ff.)

Now HSLDA is attempting to correct this problem (which it largely created) by amending Sec. 1001 (a) (1) of HEA to make it clear that colleges can admit homeschoolers and maintain their federal aid. Such action is likely to increase the animosity of some college admissions and financial aid officers toward homeschooling, making things more difficult for homeschoolers than they are under the current statute, especially since the Department of Education's notice clarified the question over a year ago.

The bill would also amend HEA by changing the header under which homeschoolers are listed from "Students who are not high school graduates" to "Satisfaction of secondary education standards." It would be better for homeschool graduates to accept that in one statute they are not recognized as graduates than to introduce into federal statutes the idea that homeschoolers should comply with the government's education standards, something many homeschoolers are working very hard to avoid. In addition, the fact that some homeschoolers are suggesting standards implies that homeschoolers feel that meeting standards would be a reasonable requirement, thus encouraging officials who favor increased government regulation of homeschooling. It's a matter of keeping our priorities straight.

IDEA

The Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA) is a federal program designed to ensure that children with disabilities whose parents want them to attend public schools will receive an appropriate education. IDEA requires that states offer screenings and evaluations to identify children with disabilities, develop Individual Education Plans (IEPs) for children with disabilities, and offer services consistent with each child's IEP. Under the IDEA program, parents can refuse to have their children screened, or refuse to have them evaluated once they have been screened, or refuse to have an IEP developed for them once they have been evaluated, or to enroll them in public school programs following an IEP. However, school officials sometimes do not know what the statutes require or misinterpret them or deliberately try to exceed their legal authority and tell parents that screenings or evaluations are required.

HSLDA's proposal is to add several paragraphs to IDEA stating that public schools are not required to provide services for families who refuse to consent to screenings and evaluations. This proposal is a bad idea. Our freedoms are much more secure when we parents take responsibility for knowing what our rights are instead of relying on officials to know them. It would be much better to educate parents, and, whenever possible, officials. Essentially any statute can be misinterpreted or ignored by officials who want to misinterpret it or who are determined to increase their authority. Legislation that tries to take care of citizens in this way only adds to the power of the federal government and is contrary to principles of self-government and a free society. If a new statute were added every time officials misinterpreted or exceeded an existing one, think what an ever greater mess the federal and state legal codes would be in!

In addition, the proposed paragraphs are likely to be opposed by special education professionals, social workers, and other powerful supporters of IDEA. The bill also gives critics of homeschooling an opportunity to argue that homeschoolers should be screened since they are not regularly observed by professionals in a conventional school.

Coverdell Education Savings Accounts

Coverdell accounts give families in high tax brackets a tax break by allowing them to establish tax-free savings accounts and then use the money to cover approved educational expenses. This provision would invite the federal government to define homeschooling and decide what constitutes acceptable homeschooling activities so taxpayers and IRS auditors would know what expenses are acceptable. The government would want to know details about homeschooling curriculums and learning activities. Over time the government would develop its own definition what a curriculum is, what types of computer activities are "educational" enough to make the purchase of a computer an approved expense, and much more. Many homeschoolers feel that our homeschooling freedoms are not for sale, especially since families have to be in a high tax bracket to benefit from using Coverdell accounts for homeschooling expenses.

Privacy of Homeschoolers' Records

The bill would require written consent from homeschoolers' parents before information about them could be released by public schools and other public institutions that have such information. Privacy is certainly an important issue. However, it needs to be approached in a much more substantive and thoroughgoing manner. Also, since this bill would apparently give homeschoolers greater protection than students enrolled in public schools have, this provision could be viewed by critics of homeschooling as granting special favors to homeschoolers. In addition, some states have cited the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA) as justification for refusing to release information about homeschoolers. They obviously interpret this statute very differently from HSLDA.

Byrd Scholarships

Under current law, applicants must "be a graduate of a public or private secondary school or have the equivalent of a certificate of graduation as recognized by the State in which the student resides," making it difficult if not impossible for homeschoolers to apply for these federal scholarships worth $1,500 per year for four years. There are many, many other scholarships for which homeschoolers can apply, many of them larger than these, so why raise complex questions about whether homeschooling is comparable to conventional schooling and risk more backlash and federal regulation? Also, it is unrealistic for us to think that we can choose to homeschool and still receive the so-called benefits of attending conventional schools.

Work Hours for Homeschoolers

HSLDA claims that this legislation "permits older homeschooled teens to work during traditional school hours. (Currently, federal law does not allow a student to work during school hours.)" ("Congress to Introduce Homeschool Non-Discrimination Bill" on HSLDA's web site at www.hslda.org.) This is wrong for two reasons. First, current federal statutes allow 17 and 18 year olds to work during conventional school hours. (However, state statutes may not allow them to.) Second, federal and state labor statutes often differ. Employers and workers are required to comply with both federal and state laws. Where there are differences, they must comply with whichever statute is stricter. Therefore, this bill would not necessarily make it possible for 14-, 15-, and 16-year-old homeschoolers to work during conventional school hours, since some states have statutes that prohibit that and would take precedence over the federal statutes.

In addition, the proposal, especially when applied to children as young as 14, could strengthen the concern that parents are keeping their children out of school to have them work that has been raised by some critics of homeschooling, child welfare advocates, and child's rights advocates who feel children need to be protected from their parents. Also, the provision is likely to be viewed as granting special privileges to homeschoolers, especially since employers would be likely to choose homeschoolers over equally qualified conventionally schooled peers simply because their schedules are more flexible. Finally, if it were really a good idea to change federal law so 14-, 15-, and 16-year-old homeschoolers could work during school hours if state law allows it, it would be better if the push for such legislation came from employers rather than homeschoolers. This would reduce criticism of homeschoolers and backlash against homeschoolers.

In sum, H R 2732 boils down to:

• A bungled attempt to correct a problem created by an earlier mistake by HSLDA concerning college admission and financial aid.

• An attempt to "clarify" a statute (IDEA) that public officials are misinterpreting (instead of having parents educate officials).

• An opportunity for homeschoolers to participate in Coverdell tax breaks for families in high tax brackets.

• An attempt to provide homeschoolers with special favors in protecting their records.

• An opportunity for homeschoolers to apply for a relatively small scholarship (Byrd).

• A change in child labor laws that would not do what HSLDA claims it would.

Problems With HSLDA's Information

In addition to the general problems created by the legislation as a whole and difficulties caused by specific proposals, information on HSLDA's web site raises concerns.

• HSLDA presents inaccurate, generally inflated descriptions of what the bill would do. For example, under the section on labor laws, HSLDA claims the legislation "would amend the child labor laws to eliminate this discrimination against homeschoolers by permitting work during traditional school hours." As explained above, passage of this provision would only permit such work if state law also permitted it, something that the bill has no control over. Concerning FERPA, HSLDA claims the legislation "would grant homeschool students' records FERPA protection in the same way it protects public school student records." However, the bill would require written permission from parents for information to be released on non-public school students, including homeschoolers. Since written permission is not required from parents of public school students, HSLDA's statement is incorrect.

• Confusing sentences, poor logic, and errors indicate we cannot rely on what HSLDA is saying and doing. Some of these are relatively minor, perhaps a result of haste, such as Coverdale rather than Coverdell and "Individual Disability Education Act" for "Individuals with Disabilities Education Act." Others are more serious: "Regulating homeschooled students according to the school hours of public school students discriminates against one of the key assets of homeschooling--flexibility." ("End Unfair Treatment of Home Education in Federal Law" on HSLDA's web site.) Lawyers drafting legislation should be able to use words clearly, carefully, and correctly, and should do so consistently. Here is further evidence that homeschoolers need to work together on the grassroots level, in our local communities and states, to resolve problems as they come up, and not rely on legislation, outside experts, lawyers, or the courts to maintain our rights for us. Do we want legislators and the general public to think that such statements are representative of the thinking and writing of homeschoolers?

What We Can Do

• We can inform ourselves about problems created by this bill and share the information with others, especially through support groups and email networking.

• We can contact our federal legislators and co-sponsors of the bill. Phone calls are much more effective than emails, but emails are better than nothing. (Be sure to include your snail mail address in your email since legislators may dismiss emails without this information.)

(1) If you have only a few minutes, call or email your federal representative and Rep. John A. Boehner (R-OH, 202-225-6205, john.boehner@mail.house.gov), Chair of the House Committee on Education and the Workforce, to which the bill has been referred. Leave a message whoever answers the phone indicating that you are a homeschooler who opposes H R 2732.

(2) To make your calls much more effective:

-- Have your points well in mind so you can answer questions and make it clear you are an informed citizen, not someone reading an email or post card they don't understand.

-- Find out if your representative is a co-sponsor of the bill by going to http://thomas.loc.gov/, typing in H R 2732, and then clicking on the link to co-sponsors. If you want background information on legislators you are going to call, go to http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/ and do a "Power Search" for each legislator. (This site also has legislators' web-based email addresses.)

-- Call your representative; Rep. John A. Boehner (R-OH, 202-225-6205, john.boehner@mail.house.gov), Chair of the House Committee on Education and the Workforce, to which the bill has been referred; and as many co-sponsors as you can.

-- Identify yourself by name and the city and state where you live. Say your call concerns H R 2732, a homeschooling bill, and ask to speak to the aide who handles education.

-- Briefly explain to the aide why you oppose the bill.

-- If the representative you have contacted is a co-sponsor, explain that you don't want this bill because it would open the door for federal regulation of homeschooling. Ask that the representative withdraw their co-sponsorship of the bill.

-- If the aide says that H R 2732 is still in committee so there's nothing they can do, say that representatives are being asked to co-sponsor the bill and you're asking them not to do so. Also, ask them to share your concerns with Rep. John A. Boehner, Chair of the Committee on Education and the Workforce, to which the bill has been referred.

-- Explain that a homeschooling organization (HSLDA) is lobbying for the bill, and you want to make it clear that HSLDA only represents a minority of homeschoolers and does not represent you.

-- Ask for the representative's position on the bill.

-- Be polite and civil.

Note: If a companion bill is introduced in the U. S. Senate, contact your senators, the committee chairs, and the co-sponsors there.

Conclusion

Homeschooling legislation recently introduced in the U. S. Congress would open the door to federal regulation of homeschooling, perhaps through required standardized testing; generate a backlash against homeschoolers; and encourage homeschoolers to rely on so-called experts. It would not result in the benefits to homeschoolers that HSLDA claims it would. Homeschoolers who oppose this legislation need to contact their federal representatives so they do not assume that HSLDA speaks for homeschoolers or that homeschoolers want this legislation. (c) 2003 Larry and Susan Kaseman

© 2003 Larry and Susan Kaseman


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1 posted on 09/08/2003 8:11:23 AM PDT by StarCMC
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To: Damocles
ping
2 posted on 09/08/2003 8:12:06 AM PDT by StarCMC (God protect the 969th in Iraq and their Captain, my brother...God protect them all!)
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To: StarCMC
So, is HSLDA an organization that shouldn't be trusted?
3 posted on 09/08/2003 8:15:29 AM PDT by Nephi (Compassionate conservativism: Sure it's socialism, but what are you gonna do, vote for Nikita Dean?)
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To: StarCMC; *Homeschool_list
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4 posted on 09/08/2003 8:17:11 AM PDT by TigersEye (Regime change in the Courts. - Impeach Activist Judges!)
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To: 2Jedismom
What's your take on this?
5 posted on 09/08/2003 8:24:18 AM PDT by ibheath (Born-again and grateful to God for it.)
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To: Nephi
They are the only national legal defense HSers have at this point.(ATTN: Freeper ATTYS!!!!) They certainly could use some real competition. Some states (Texas?) have a state wide defense oriented org that can help the families.

Home education can be quite a battle zone and if you are between a rock and the state dept. of education or the district it helps to have inexpensive legal assistance. Right now that pretty much means HSLDA.
6 posted on 09/08/2003 8:32:47 AM PDT by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: Nephi
is HSLDA an organization that shouldn't be trusted

No organization should be trusted above your own informed judgment. HSLDA provides a very valuable service for many homeschool families, but it's perfectly reasonable for anyone to disagree with their approach to any specific legislation.

In this situation, they seem to be attempting to get specifics into the Federal laws that will pre-empt regulations or court decisions that are harmful to homeschooling. I see their point, but I also feel this approach is inconsistent with their emphasis on the Constitution and its guarantees of the rights of citizens. Since the Federal government has no Constitutional authority to be involved in education at all, haggling over the details of unConstitutional legislation presents a very mixed message!

HSLDA has a socially conservative and explicitly Christian message; this offends some homeschoolers, who then seem to reflexively oppose any stance taken by HSLDA. Maybe that's the case with these authors, maybe not. You can take or leave what they say, just as you would a proposal from HSLDA.

7 posted on 09/08/2003 8:33:05 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Pray for Terri Schiavo - hearing on 9-11 to schedule the execution!)
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To: StarCMC
Ooooh--I am glad we've not joined up yet. This changes things. I don't want the government to give us stuff just because we educate at home. Federal oversight is not going to help!

We don't believe that standardized tests are worth much, I don't expect a tax break for schooling at home (costs me about $50/year, so wooo big break if it's for actual expenses!), and I'll work with individual colleges as needed, thanks.

This seems to go hand in hand with public schools offerring virtual academies, and other "draw them in" devices. No thanks!

Regards
8 posted on 09/08/2003 8:39:07 AM PDT by Missus (We're not trying to overpopulate the world, we're just trying to outnumber the idiots.)
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To: StarCMC
According to The Chronicle of Higher Education, "College officials worry that lobbyists for homeschoolers will persuade Republicans in Congress and the Bush administration to require colleges to admit students who may not be adequately prepared, exposing the institution to lawsuits if they refuse to enroll them. These officials point to a letter that the Home School Legal Defense Association, a national lobbying group, sent to financial-aid administrators and admissions officers on the heels of the Education Department's notice. The letter stated that requiring home-schooled students to take extra tests to qualify for admission is 'considered discriminatory.' The letter demanded that 'all the barriers for home-schoolers seeking admission and financial aid must immediately be disregarded and revoked from the policy of your university.'" ("A Growing Force: In fight for federal student aid, home-school lobby has powerful friends," January 17, 2003, p. A19 ff.)

This part confused me, why would you object to homeschoolers having to take a test before they enter college?

I know quite a few homeschooled kids that are in college now (my 15 year old being one of them). They don't have a diploma, haven't graduated from high school, but they did pass the College Placement Test, so they are allowed to take classes and tuition is free under our dual enrollment program which is available to all 10-12 graders.

How can anybody get into college without taking some sort of placement test even if you do have a diploma.

Doesn't every student have to take a test of some sort to enter college, and why are they objecting to homeschoolers having to take such a test?

9 posted on 09/08/2003 8:45:41 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: .30Carbine
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10 posted on 09/08/2003 8:53:46 AM PDT by TigersEye (Regime change in the Courts. - Impeach Activist Judges!)
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To: dawn53
The letter stated that requiring home-schooled students to take extra tests to qualify for admission is 'considered discriminatory.'

Extra tests, in addition to those required for other students.

Since so many students graduating from high school don't have a basic education, colleges might decide to use test data as their only criterion for admission. Or maybe they could just let anyone who can pay the fees sign up, and if they can't do the work, flunk 'em out.

11 posted on 09/08/2003 8:57:05 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Pray for Terri Schiavo - hearing on 9-11 to schedule the execution!)
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To: Tax-chick
Thanks for the clarification.

In our local college, if you're a dual enrollment student you have to score a certain level on the test in order to be admitted. For instance, you have to score high enough to be able to take College Alg. and Composition.

I know if you already have a HS diploma and don't score that high on the Placement Tests, you can be admitted, but have to take remedial courses that don't actually count as credits toward the general ed. requirements for a degree, but do count as elective credits.

12 posted on 09/08/2003 9:19:52 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: dawn53
It all sounds sooo reasonable. "Why shouldn't homeschoolers take tests, after all, they do so well on SATs etc." (See Genisis 3:B - "Did God really say 'You must not eat from any tree in the garden?'") There is nothing innocent about the people who want this "official" intrusion into the right that people have to home school. Liberals specialize in "inch-by-inch" gain until they have taken over whatever it is they want. (Too many examples to list) The answer is to fight ANY legislation aimed at home schoolers to regulate. After all, compared to the product the public schools are turning out, home schooled children could sleep all day and be better off.
13 posted on 09/08/2003 9:29:31 AM PDT by elephantlips
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To: StarCMC
This ALL started because Home Schoolers were rightly annoyed at having to pay 20% increases in already-high property taxes which are being enacted across the nation. So they said "If we are paying taxes, we should get the same resources the schools get". HUGE MISTAKE. Instead, they should have been fighting for EXEMPTIONS to the property taxes themselves.
14 posted on 09/08/2003 9:38:34 AM PDT by montag813
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To: SLB
Bump for later reading.

What's your take on this?
15 posted on 09/08/2003 9:44:28 AM PDT by bearsgirl90
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To: Tax-chick
HSLDA has a socially conservative and explicitly Christian message; this offends some homeschoolers, who then seem to reflexively oppose any stance taken by HSLDA. Maybe that's the case with these authors, maybe not.

One of the main criticisms of HSLDA that I've heard was that HSLDA sometimes "makes matters worse" by blowing stories out of proportion and bringing unnecessary attention to the homeschool movement.

That doesn't mean that I agree with that criticism - we opted not to join HSLDA for other reasons - but it is one reason I've heard from homeschoolers (secular, Christian, Jewish, or otherwise) who are die-hard against gov't involvement (like myself) for not supporting HSLDA fully.

On the one hand, the article seems to be nitpicking. Up to now, I thought HONDA was a good idea because I thought it was supposed to "protect" homeschoolers from existing federal laws that affect school students. But, the article does make a good point - on the flip side, with HONDA we could be unwittingly inviting the federal gov't to regulate us now.

16 posted on 09/08/2003 9:50:00 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes (and tired of this screenname, too.)
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To: montag813
Instead, they should have been fighting for EXEMPTIONS to the property taxes themselves.

You got that right!

17 posted on 09/08/2003 10:02:29 AM PDT by MrConfettiMan ("A submissive sheep is a find for a wolf." - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago)
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To: StarCMC
I looked my representative up -- Todd Akin, a homeschooler himself -- and he supports this bill. I sent him an email asking that he take away his support.
18 posted on 09/08/2003 10:12:04 AM PDT by StarCMC (God protect the 969th in Iraq and their Captain, my brother...God protect them all!)
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To: dawn53
Republicans in Congress and the Bush administration to require colleges to admit students who may not be adequately prepared

So, from this I can conclude that 85% of players taking to the collegiate gridiron this weekend will be doing so as the result of a VRWC.

Doesn't every student have to take a test of some sort to enter college[?]

In a word: no.
Rah, rah, sis boom bah.

19 posted on 09/08/2003 10:16:27 AM PDT by LTCJ
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To: Tired of Taxes
You're right - HSLDA does sometimes take positions that members disagree with. Especially in state matters, local people often have a better idea of what's going on, and what constitutes effective action.

On the other hand, one can be a member without supporting everything the organization does. I feel much more secure knowing that if the Authorities show up at the door, I have someone to call who can actually do something!
20 posted on 09/08/2003 12:33:24 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Pray for Terri Schiavo - hearing on 9-11 to schedule the execution!)
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