For Many Chinese, America's Allure Is Fading

The New York Times ^ | 9/7/2003 | DAVID W. CHEN

[SunStar]

He is miserable. He says to me, `Why am I working so hard in America? I can get rich at home.'

Good, then get the f*** out.

[RightWhale]

China is doing better, so it is well to stay in China. When will Mexico follow suit?

[Lucy Lake]

Hey, some good news for a change!

[MD_Willington_1976]

hmmm...well most of the time they just go to BC in Canada...then the government puts them up and gives them immigration papers, they feel right at home in a Socialist Country, end up living in Vancouver BC..The dont call it HONGCOUVER for nothing...

[ElephantMan]

The average person doesn't want to be smuggled into America anymore," said Ms. Zhou, who works at a new bedding store. "The economy is so terrible there."

Good!

If the only reason you want to be smuggled into this country is for the good economy--we don't want you.

The founding fathers risked their lives, livelihoods, personal well-being and economic security--in short, everything.

Putting anything less on the line won't impress any of us.

The biggest thing America offers you is freedom. Freedom, which includes the opportunity to achieve what you wish to.

Take the Korean grocery stores you'll find in rundown sections of Los Angeles. Entire families pitch in to make the business work...and now their children--first and second generation Americans--are going to college and excelling.

Is it any wonder?

In tact families sacrificing so the next generation can do better than they did. (And they did very well, indeed, when you consider they came 1000's of miles from their homeland with no money in their pockets and unable to speak a word of English.)

These kind of immigrants make our country better. They are a modern day embodiment of the spirit which lived in the founder's hearts.

Their contributions are welcome, needed and appreciated.

The leechers described at the beginning of my post and in the article above can stay home.

[PROUDAMREP]

Haven't they noticed the "Made in China" on all the products they purchase in the US? Our jobs are in China! They should readily find employment in China and be carefree once again.

[Paleo Conservative]

China is doing better, so it is well to stay in China. When will Mexico follow suit?

When we make it illegal for illegal aliens to wire back their earning to Mexico. Mexico has never reformed itself, because they can alway let their excess population migrate to the US rather than build up their own economy to create employment in Mexico.

[prairiebreeze]

Leave it to the NY Slimes to publish such a piece.

Prairie

[RightWhale]

When we make it illegal for illegal aliens to wire back their earning

That could happen. After the Second Coming.

[hilaryrhymeswithrich]

That was so well said! Those who came before many recent generations came here to be a part of our country, to help it grow and prosper. Many who come now come to spend a few years making money, eyes looking down (not making personal connections) sending a good deal of it home to be spent in other economies (often times money earned under the table and taxfree) only to return home with the bulk of their estate to spend there. Nice.

[RedWhiteBlue]

The kind of immigrant that comes here -- illegally -- only so that they can send money "home" is not the kind of immigrant we need anyway.

[Johnbalaya]

the article a veiled attack on the american dream...there are a millions of success stories that counter the author's assertion.

[Doc On The Bay]

Is it any wonder that a People raised in a Socialist/Communist state--a State in which they need not make ANY decisions about their Lives or Future--find a Free Society intimidating??

In America, they Actually have to decide what color Socks to wear!!

Only the Intellectually Competent are capable of making an "Easy Transition" to a "Free Society!"

Those who operate as "Drones" in a Totalitarian Society have a MUCH harder Time acclimating to a Free Society.

SO, Sadly, It Is!!

Doc

[AdamSelene235]

In America, they Actually have to decide what color Socks to wear!! Is it any wonder that a People raised in a Socialist/Communist state--a State in which they need not make ANY decisions about their Lives or Future--find a Free Society intimidating??

The Chinese get to pick their own socks. Furthermore China hasn't been "Socialist/Communist" in decades, its fascist. China also has a fiscal burden of government 2X lower than the United States. The average American is far more Socialist than the average Chinese. The Chinese know their government doesn't give a damn about them, meanwhile allegedly conservative Americans are making the greatest expansions of the welfare state since LBJ.

I've known several Chinese scientists and businessmen who have left the United States to open businesses back in China. I can't say I blame them.

[maxwellp]

Sorry, but I don't believe a word of anything the New York Times prints. We take our cats to a local vet from China, Dr. Chen. He has a thriving practice, is rather expensive, but extraordinarily good!

[Doc On The Bay]

Well, Now, if your Observations truly reflect current conditions in China--GOOD ON THEM!!

My BRIEF (Albeit Narrow & Biased) introduction to the "Chinese Communist Government" leads me to believe that the "Chinese" are constrained by their Communist Government.

If, in Fact, the "Chinese People" are free to engauge in "Free Enterprise," then it is OBVIOUS that their "Central Government" has lost control of their Population!

SO BE IT!!

You are Describing a "Situation" in which the "Titular Communist Ruling Elite" have LOST CONTROL of the Population!!

HOW DELICIOUS a PROSPECT!!

"LET the GAMES BEGUIN!!!"

Doc

[Jorge]

Does this mean the 7 year waiting list of people trying to immigrate to the U.S. will become only 5 or 6 years?

I wonder how many immigrants the NY Times had to interview before they found these self pitying losers.

[AdamSelene235]

If, in Fact, the "Chinese People" are free to engauge in "Free Enterprise," then it is OBVIOUS that their "Central Government" has lost control of their Population! SO BE IT!! You are Describing a "Situation" in which the "Titular Communist Ruling Elite" have LOST CONTROL of the Population!!

Hardly. Fascism is a way of making coercive collectivism economically viable. Rather than nationalize the means of production, Fascists nationalize the terms and results of production thereby preserving a veneer of private ownership and some of the incentives of the free market.

[Doc On The Bay]

You Describe a Hell of "Death by Inches!"

Probably WORSE THAN straight Communism.

Doc