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Bar stirs up some southern discomfort
redandblack ^ | September 04, 2003 | MATTHEW HUNT

Posted on 09/04/2003 5:22:06 AM PDT by stainlessbanner

 

Students are at odds over the arrival of downtown Athens' newest resident: General Beauregard.

But it's not just that the bar, located at 164 E. Clayton St., is named after the Civil War general, it's the Old South interior design that's causing rebellion.

Three flags hang over the bar, reflected in giant mirrors along the opposite wall: The Confederate First National Flag ("the stars and bars"), the Virginia Cavalry Jack ("the rebel flag") and the Bonnie Blue Flag, designed by Gen. Stonewall Jackson to represent the unified states.

It's a risky theme in a University community where minority enrollment is a constant challenge and in a state that recently dealt with Gov. Sonny Perdue's efforts to change the state flag.

Still, Daniel Simmons, owner of General Beauregard's, said, "It felt right."

"Athens is such a great Southern town," he said. "We're just trying to bring it back to life."

Gardner Dominick, co-owner of the bar, said they didn't give the bar's theme much thought and were just trying to provide an atmosphere Athens hadn't seen before.

And they succeeded.

The bar is half antebellum home and half Southern ballroom. It features rocking chairs, framed Cotton Planters Loan Association currency, a glittering chandelier and a painted statue of Jack Daniels that looks similar to General Beauregard himself.

The bar prefers Hank Williams Jr. to 50 Cent, and even has a signature drink: Dixieland Tea, which is Kentucky bourbon and sweet tea in a mason jar.

"I'm definitely surprised by (the theme)," said Melvin Hines, a black sophomore from Albany. "I thought that after all this time things would have changed. People don't see it actually offends other people."

Hines also said a bar like General Beauregard's does more to separate the University, and in the long run, the state as a whole.

However, separation isn't on the owner's agenda.

"We've heard nothing but positive feedback," Simmons said. "We're not trying to be racist."

Dominick added that it's not about racism, it's about giving Athens something new.

"(The bar) is really laid back and awesome," said Becca Taubel, a white sophomore from Gainesville. "The music is different, too ... you don't have to wear earplugs when you walk in the door."

And Taubel said she didn't even notice the flags.

"I believe in Georgia, especially, there's not too much that separates races other than the rebel flag ... and knowing it's here really just deepens the wound," Hines said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: bar; confederate; dixie; southern
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A statue of Jack Daniels greets customers at General Beauregard's, the bar that replaced Mean Mikes on East Clayton Street.

1 posted on 09/04/2003 5:22:06 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: stainlessbanner
I wonder how long before the pc police start the demonstrations.
2 posted on 09/04/2003 5:25:24 AM PDT by Vigilantcitizen (Herman Cain for Senator.)
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To: stainlessbanner
Sweet. Only in Athens could the design of a bar be a big deal.
3 posted on 09/04/2003 5:26:05 AM PDT by Texas_Dawg (You didn't get laid off... you didn't get outsourced or offshored... you got fired. Get over it.)
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To: stainlessbanner
FWIW, The Red and Black is the worst newspaper of any kind I've ever read. I would love to see some UGA grad buy that paper and then shut it down.
4 posted on 09/04/2003 5:27:19 AM PDT by Texas_Dawg (You didn't get laid off... you didn't get outsourced or offshored... you got fired. Get over it.)
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To: stainlessbanner
I want to go there! Sounds like a terrific bar, and with some originality.
5 posted on 09/04/2003 5:29:18 AM PDT by RikaStrom
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To: Texas_Dawg
College students whining about a bar? Strange, indeed.
6 posted on 09/04/2003 5:29:34 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: stainlessbanner
"I believe in Georgia, especially, there's not too much that separates races other than the rebel flag ... "

In other words, nothing but "refuse to NOT be a victim" posturing. Cry me a river, build a bridge, and get over it!

(And that's "Jack Daniel," possessive is "Jack Daniel's.")

7 posted on 09/04/2003 5:30:08 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Pray for Terri Schiavo!)
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To: stainlessbanner
"I'm definitely surprised by (the theme)," said Melvin Hines, a black sophomore from Albany. "I thought that after all this time things would have changed. People don't see it actually offends other people." Hines also said a bar like General Beauregard's does more to separate the University, and in the long run, the state as a whole.

He probably said this in the confines of the Black Student Union while planning the separate black graduation ceremony for this year.

8 posted on 09/04/2003 5:32:10 AM PDT by clockwork
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To: Texas_Dawg
...I would love to see some UGA grad buy that paper and then shut it down.

If he could read it....

9 posted on 09/04/2003 5:32:51 AM PDT by Lysander (My army can kill your army)
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To: stainlessbanner; Constitution Day
...and even has a signature drink: Dixieland Tea, which is Kentucky bourbon and sweet tea in a mason jar.

An unforgivable mortal sin is defined as adulterating Kentucky bourbon like this - and I'm not sure if there are degrees of unfogivable mortal sins, but if there were, making something as nasty sounding and unpalatable as this while adulterating the bourbon would be at the top.

I'm also disturbed by the image of Jack Daniels, and have a fear that this joint is selling that Tennessee dog piss while pretending it is bourbon.

;)

10 posted on 09/04/2003 5:32:59 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine (drink Woodford Reserve)
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To: Lysander
Ow, that is cold.
11 posted on 09/04/2003 5:33:34 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine (drink Woodford Reserve)
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To: Lysander
If he could read it....

You must have gone to GT.

12 posted on 09/04/2003 5:34:12 AM PDT by Texas_Dawg (You didn't get laid off... you didn't get outsourced or offshored... you got fired. Get over it.)
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To: Texas_Dawg
"You must have gone to GT."

You mean that trade school off of North avenue?

13 posted on 09/04/2003 5:37:40 AM PDT by Vigilantcitizen (Herman Cain for Senator.)
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To: Texas_Dawg
That Ramblin' Wreck?
14 posted on 09/04/2003 5:38:59 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine (drink Woodford Reserve)
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To: viligantcitizen
You mean that trade school off of North avenue?

51-7. (Nerds.)

15 posted on 09/04/2003 5:39:30 AM PDT by Texas_Dawg (You didn't get laid off... you didn't get outsourced or offshored... you got fired. Get over it.)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
"An unforgivable mortal sin is defined as adulterating Kentucky bourbon like this - and I'm not sure if there are degrees of unfogivable mortal sins, but if there were, making something as nasty sounding and unpalatable as this while adulterating the bourbon would be at the top."

I concur. That combination would make a billy goat puke.

16 posted on 09/04/2003 5:39:39 AM PDT by Vigilantcitizen (Herman Cain for Senator.)
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To: clockwork
"He probably said this in the confines of the Black Student Union while planning the separate black graduation ceremony for this year."

There is absolutely no doubt concerning the accuracy of your remark.

17 posted on 09/04/2003 5:43:08 AM PDT by tahiti
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To: Lysander
If he could read it....

Kinda true. I went to grad school at UGA. I've always regretted I didn't get a picture of a road sign on campus (or didn't take the sign. It only lasted a couple of days.) The sign said "Daed End".



18 posted on 09/04/2003 5:43:28 AM PDT by gitmo (Americans are learning world geography ... one war at a time.)
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To: stainlessbanner
"I'm definitely surprised by (the theme)," said Melvin Hines, a black sophomore from Albany. "I thought that after all this time things would have changed. People don't see it actually offends other people."

OK, Odds that Melvin is gay and supports fleecing the people of Georgia for courses in how to be gay, gay studies, and gay subculture, and wanders around kissing his "boyfriend" in public.

Earth to Melvin: The bar is enclosed. Everything that goes on there is behind closed doors. If you are offended, don't go inside. End of transmission.

Shalom.

19 posted on 09/04/2003 5:43:37 AM PDT by ArGee (Hey, how did I get in this handcart? And why is it so hot?)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
An unforgivable mortal sin is defined as adulterating Kentucky bourbon like this - and I'm not sure if there are degrees of unfogivable mortal sins, but if there were, making something as nasty sounding and unpalatable as this while adulterating the bourbon would be at the top.

I wouldn't do it to Woodford Reserve or anything, but Bourbon and iced tea do go together well. Of course, I'm a Yankee so I don't use the sickly-sweet "Sweet tea" found in the south.

SD

20 posted on 09/04/2003 5:45:54 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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