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After the Show, RNC's Gillespie Rang Rush to Dispute Report He'd Rejected Reaganism
Rush Limbaugh ^ | 09-02-03 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 09/02/2003 10:03:42 PM PDT by Pikamax

After the Show, RNC's Gillespie Rang Rush to Dispute Report He'd Rejected Reaganism

September 2, 2003

After I finished broadcasting today, Republican National Committee Chairman Ed Gillespie called the EIB Network. He wanted to talk to me about this Manchester Union Leader report alleging that he'd rejected smaller government in a meeting with the paper's editorial board. During the show I'd said that this story had "taken the wind out of my sails," and needless to say this caused rumblings of displeasure out there. I was unable to take Ed's call, but I asked that his message be relayed to me because I wanted to share it with you here on the site tonight.

The message I received from the person who spoke to Gillespie's assistant Jim Dyke stated that Ed met with the Editorial Board, and because Ed would not commit to "shutting down the Department of Education" or "absolutely rejecting a drug benefit," the Editorial page editors took it as an abandonment of Reaganesque smaller government. Gillespie also took my point that there weren’t any quotes and appreciates that I left it open to interpretation. Jim said Ed is still committed to smaller government as he was a principal mover/shaker on Contract with America, etc.

I gave Gillespie the benefit of the doubt throughout Tuesday's show - and I want all of you to do the same. Please do not call the RNC and harass them over this. (I have always urged people not to do that in circumstances like this.) I will be talking to Ed in the next few days and will report on that conversation here on the website so as to keep you all up to speed. I dedicated a lot of Tuesday's program to this story, because it reported Gillespie saying "in no uncertain terms that the days of Reaganesque Republican railings against the expansion of federal government are over. No longer does the Republican Party stand for shrinking the federal government, for scaling back its encroachment into the lives of Americans, or for carrying the banner of federalism into the political battles of the day."

The Raleigh News & Observer's companion story headlined "Federal Spending on Spree," worked me up even more over the bills being charged by government in our names. Plus, when I interviewed Gillespie for the Limbaugh Letter recently, he seemed to fear that I'd launch the howitzers at him over this spending stuff. After President Bush let Ted Kennedy write the education bill and signed campaign finance reform, and after all his big government spending aimed at picking off Democrat votes (the BIG Theory), the idea of an RNC chief rejecting limited government sounded all too plausible. I just never see a time when we'll have enough seats in Congress so that we say, "Okay, we can reduce government now."

This story seemed to mean 15 years of our work flushed down the toilet, so I delivered the broadcast commentary you can hear in the audio links below. I said a few times that I fully expected a denial of this story from the RNC - and stressed that Gillespie was not quoted directly. But the feeling of dejection led to four inspired monologues on our culture which are still quite relevant. The trend in this country is to look to government as the solution to all our problems, to insulate the people from all capitalism or competition, and to surrender to the left at the very moment their ideology disintegrates. This is not the notion of government this nation was founded on - and I'm sure the Republican Party will continue to strive for that "more perfect union" Jefferson, Madison and so many others left in our charge.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: biggovernment; edgillespie; gop; rnc; rush; spending

1 posted on 09/02/2003 10:03:42 PM PDT by Pikamax
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To: Pikamax
If Ed Gillespe is lying, there is little--likely, no--reason for FreeRepublic to trust or support the Republican party.
2 posted on 09/02/2003 10:07:29 PM PDT by Captainpaintball
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To: Pikamax
Even Reagan rejected Reaganism. Ronnie was, after all, an FDR Democrat. The Republicans have only given lip service about limited government. What they deliver is something else entirely. Massive Dept of Education spending increases, expeditionary wars, and insane wars on drugs.
3 posted on 09/02/2003 10:15:08 PM PDT by StockAyatollah
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To: Pikamax
Ha... It's funny. Rush mentions this article on his show and they are scrambling to cover their a$$es.
4 posted on 09/02/2003 10:16:43 PM PDT by jbstrick (Behold the Power of CHEESE!)
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To: jbstrick
Why is that funny? Rush moves more republicans than any other single thing. For good or ill.
5 posted on 09/02/2003 10:24:42 PM PDT by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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To: Captainpaintball
I thought Free Republic was a conservative site, not a republican site, or have I been mistaken?
6 posted on 09/02/2003 10:32:04 PM PDT by dts32041 ("moderate Arab" he's the one who detonates his bomb via remote control.)
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To: Pikamax
I gave Gillespie the benefit of the doubt throughout Tuesday's show

Total BS.

I like Rush, but he was way out on a limb today, haranging about this for most of his show. Got all bent out of shape because a writer for the Manchester paper INTERPRETED Gillespie's remarks to be abandoning conservatism, and used that flimsy foundation to trumpet how he was oh so right about his 'Big Strategy' theory. Then he stated that there would certainly be a denial, but he(Rush) knew better. Yeah, he backpedaled some towards the end of the show, probably after realizing how much of a corner he had painted himself into. Rush is usually right on target, but today he sounded just like when he was assuring us with great certainty that Hillary would never run for the Senate.

It is one thing for him to state his opinion that there is a 'Big Strategy' and to voice his opposition(which is his job and responsibility if he thinks it hurts conservatism), but quite another to read such a negative and devisive(for conservatives) interpretation based on simply an editorialized report of a single speech that was reading between the lines. Especially considering the growing wedge between conservative idealists and pragmatists, such as in the CA election. This wasn't just expressing disappointment with a policy decision, it was accusing the Bush Administration(and Bush himself) of permanently abandoning conservatism for eternal big govt. The thought that maybe, just maybe, Bush is taking an incremental approach based on thin margins and postponing some conservative home runs until 2004 gains make them possible seems to have been completely ruled out.

Rush has been one of the great contributors to conservatism, and has enormous influence, but with that comes a large responsibility. He seems to be getting sloppy as of late.

7 posted on 09/02/2003 10:35:01 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: All
I will say it again. Ed is a good guy and if anyone reads his Team Leader reports, they would not have believed this BS report about what he supposedly said.

You all should apologize to him.
8 posted on 09/02/2003 10:38:15 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Men stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up as if nothing had happened." Churchill)
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To: rwfromkansas
Why he is a political creature and is such subject to bend the truth, about like a Islamic fascist, talking to an infidel.

I have yet to see much conservatism out of the pubbies in the last 12 years, I hear it coming tax cut, but I see a larger DOE, smaller military, going begging to the UN, for help when they laughed at us, more money for roads, more money for drugs, smaller military, naming the justice department building RFK building, (a real fascist there.

Attempts to cut VET Benefits (though they probably should be for none service related problems), CFR, Clinton holdovers, etc, etc.

Of course in this state we have pubbies, who feel George Ryan was the best governor the state ever had, even if he was a little bit of a sleeze bag who pardon all the murders on death row, and expanded government, or a governor in Nevada who pushes a tax increase thru for the children, or one in Mississippi who says it is your Christian duty to raise taxes to help the children.

Or maybe a senator or two in the NE who never met a federal program they didn't like as long as it put money in their pockets.

I can count on one hand the number of conservative pubbies today, but hey Gillespe is a good guy cause he supports GWB, and everybody knows he is a conservative, even though it looks like he is not walking the walk.

I know baby steps and he will turn it around after 2004, tired of pie in the sky.

9 posted on 09/02/2003 10:59:27 PM PDT by dts32041 ("Moderate Arab" he's the one who detonates his bomb via remote control.)
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To: dts32041
I thought Free Republic was a conservative site, not a republican site, or have I been mistaken?

It describes itself as "A Conservative News Forum". But many are "win at all costs" republicans. But if the republican party adopts the democrat platform, why vote for them?

10 posted on 09/02/2003 11:20:29 PM PDT by Captainpaintball
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To: Pikamax
This is not BS. Perhaps a trial balloon for 2004, but this piece is not BS.

Reaction will guage Bush's political movements to secure the base before the 2004 election and by-pass conservative ideas after the election is secure. This is a test, and a smart political move I might add. Rush is being dupped again by Dubya.

Ask yourself this question, aside from military leadership would you call Bush conservative or liberal? IMO, he is a liberal like his dad, the one that gave us tax increases, Head Start, ADA, the Drug Csar, etc..

Anyway, you know the Reagan Revolution is a long forgotten memory to the Whitehouse and at the Capitol Building when Rush Limbaugh must remind listeners about the Carter years, cite stats on the 1980's, and quote JFK to encourage tax cuts among the Republican "conservative" leadership.

Conservativism is being redefined as we speak. History's definition of a socialist is yesterday's liberal is today's moderate is tomorrow's conservative is a future extreme right-wing nut.
11 posted on 09/03/2003 12:16:51 AM PDT by sully777 ( Tempus fugit)
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To: Pikamax
bump
12 posted on 09/03/2003 12:25:00 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: dts32041
Actually...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/928247/posts

"Long live Republicanism..." -- JimRob
13 posted on 09/03/2003 4:02:42 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (Inconceivable!)
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To: Pikamax
Union Leader follow-up:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/975049/posts
14 posted on 09/03/2003 4:10:21 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (Inconceivable!)
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To: nutmeg
read later bump
15 posted on 09/03/2003 11:19:15 PM PDT by nutmeg (Is the DemocRATic party extinct yet?)
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