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No license? No pop stand, St. Paul tells 2 youngsters
Star Tribune ^ | Kevin Duchschere, Star Tribune

Posted on 08/29/2003 6:16:24 AM PDT by vannrox

Mikaela Ziegler, 7, and her 4-year-old sister, Annika, were selling refreshments Wednesday afternoon near the State Fairgrounds when a woman approached them. But she wasn't there to buy.

"She said, 'You can't sell pop unless you have a license,' " Mikaela said.

That's how it came to be that an inspector with St. Paul's Office of License, Inspections and Environmental Protection shut down Mikaela and Annika's pop stand.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: children; control; government; lemonade; lemonadestand; minors; money; ownership; rights; stand
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1 posted on 08/29/2003 6:16:25 AM PDT by vannrox
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To: vannrox
Remember, all these laws are for the children.
2 posted on 08/29/2003 6:17:32 AM PDT by coloradan
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To: vannrox
Another example of the "DEATH OF COMMON SENSE" that seems to RULE in our country the past 15 years or so.
3 posted on 08/29/2003 6:18:42 AM PDT by PISANO
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To: vannrox
I still fail to see where if someone gets sick from a private kid-run lemonade stand that it is a given that they sue the city!

Leave the kids alone, BIG BROTHER.

4 posted on 08/29/2003 6:19:09 AM PDT by George from New England
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To: vannrox
All I can say is...WTF?
5 posted on 08/29/2003 6:19:56 AM PDT by New Horizon
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To: George from New England
Little tin God alert, with its brain on vacation flunkey doing its bidding.
6 posted on 08/29/2003 6:24:29 AM PDT by chiefqc
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To: vannrox
""I don't think that was right," she said, "Cause you should be able to just sell stuff without having something that you don't know you're supposed to be having."

Smarter than most Democrats. Also the death of common sense is going to kill this country.

7 posted on 08/29/2003 6:40:05 AM PDT by jjm2111 (The Democratic Party; stifling business growth since 1866.)
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To: vannrox
Maybe they can outsource to another country that doesn't impose such restrictions?........just a thought(sarcasm)
8 posted on 08/29/2003 6:54:07 AM PDT by quack
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To: PISANO
I remember when a big publishing company announced it was moving out of down town St. Paul. Someone in city government was quoted as saying, "...good, we're growing and need the space."
9 posted on 08/29/2003 6:54:07 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: George from New England
This is BIG MONOPOLY, Libertarian dark side.
10 posted on 08/29/2003 6:56:02 AM PDT by cornelis
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To: jjm2111
"Cause you should be able to just sell stuff without having something that you don't know you're supposed to be having."

Then you wrote...

Smarter than most Democrats. Also the death of common sense is going to kill this country.

Um. Just how did you make it through the tortured grammar in that quote to figure out what it meant?

And besides, what you call "common" sense is hardly that. Everyone's idea of what is "commonsensical" is different. I'm sure that we could find a significant number of people who think it's commonsensical to herd us FReepers into concentration camps.

11 posted on 08/29/2003 6:59:25 AM PDT by Chemist_Geek ("Drill, R&D, and conserve" should be our watchwords! Energy independence for America!)
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To: vannrox
Idiotic bureaucrat shuts down a kiddie pop stand. Film at 11.
12 posted on 08/29/2003 7:00:06 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: vannrox
Two conservatives in the Minnesota pipeline.
13 posted on 08/29/2003 7:05:27 AM PDT by blackdog ("Take the time to taste every sandwich" -Warren Zevon, 2002)
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To: Chemist_Geek
Um. Just how did you make it through the tortured grammar in that quote to figure out what it meant?

I agree. I'm still trying to figure out what it says...it does say something, right??

14 posted on 08/29/2003 7:06:34 AM PDT by 4mycountry (You say I'm a brat like it's a bad thing.)
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To: vannrox
Maybe I'm missing something. I don't think the spokesperson handled this very well.

But if this is right outside the State Fair, then presumably the girls are surrounded by vendors who did pay the fee. And they're in competition (admittedly not real serious competition) with vendors inside the gate who also pay to sell (admittedly at extortion prices).

I dunno. I see this as a little different than kids setting up a lemonade stand at the end of the street.

Maybe I'm wrong.

15 posted on 08/29/2003 7:13:01 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (HHD)
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To: 4mycountry
"Cause you should be able to just sell stuff without having something that you don't know you're supposed to be having."

I think little Mikaela was complaining that she was ignorant of the law, and that she shouldn't have to comply with it anyway.

16 posted on 08/29/2003 7:18:25 AM PDT by Chemist_Geek ("Drill, R&D, and conserve" should be our watchwords! Energy independence for America!)
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To: vannrox

Cripes! These kids set up a few blocks from the fair. Probably made a whole $5! Criminals!
17 posted on 08/29/2003 7:23:30 AM PDT by Spruce
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To: vannrox
It's getting really bad when you send a government official out to shut down a child's lemonade stand.
18 posted on 08/29/2003 7:27:20 AM PDT by freekitty
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To: vannrox
Scofflaws! How dare they, flagrantly transfering their private property to others -- in exchange for MONEY, and without the state's permission. Greedy little capitalist pigs.
19 posted on 08/29/2003 7:28:04 AM PDT by Sloth ("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
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To: Corin Stormhands
I agree....makes me wonder if mom/dad didn't set the kids up in that location, unless their property adjoins or is very close to the fairgrounds.
20 posted on 08/29/2003 7:28:19 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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