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Dare accepted on electronic voting machines - Programmer says she can crack system
Atlanta Journal and Constitution ^ | Aug 23, 2003 | Jim Galloway

Posted on 08/23/2003 9:34:39 AM PDT by John Jorsett

In the end, Friday's two-hour discussion of whether computers should be the sole tabulators of Georgia voters' ballots came down to a challenge.

Roxanne Jekot, a 51-year-old computer program developer from Cumming, said she and a few expert friends could crack Georgia's $54 million touch-screen voting system in a matter of minutes.

Bring it on, said state election officials.

"If something can beat the machine, we need to know that," said Brit Williams, a retired Kennesaw State University professor who helped design the state's touch-screen security system. He put the odds of corrupting the software undetected at 1 billion to one.

The dare was made and accepted at the first of a series of seminars at Kennesaw State sponsored by Secretary of State Cathy Cox to defuse questions about the vulnerability of the statewide system she installed last year.

Jekot said she could be ready as soon as next week. She said all she wants to do is point out weaknesses so that they can be fixed -- and declares she can put an unauthorized vote anywhere she wants.

Election officials promised to provide a voting machine, and a computer server into which votes from the machine are fed.

The November 2002 vote in Georgia went smoothly. But with a federally imposed deadline to revamp the voting systems in all other states now approaching, concern over the corruptibility of computer-based voting has spread across the nation.

Last month, an associate professor of computer science at Johns Hopkins University released a study billed as the first independent review of electronic voting. It found the Diebold Election Systems used by Georgia to be vulnerable to tampering by unscrupulous voters, poll workers and software developers.

Election officials in Georgia and other states dismissed it, saying it exaggerated the machines' exposure to hackers.

Furor over the report was partly defused when the lead researcher acknowledged this week that he failed to disclose that he had stock options in VoteHere, a company that competes with Diebold in the voting-software market, and was a member of VoteHere's technical advisory board.

But there remains a bill in Congress, introduced by U.S. Rep. Rush Holt (D-N.J.), to require that all voting machines produce a paper ballot that would be used as a back-up system in all elections. In any dispute, paper ballots would become the final arbiter.

The seminar at KSU was a two-hour argument against the bill. Election officials argued that giving paper ballots the final say in an election would quickly render computer voting useless.

Moreover, they said, paper ballots can be tampered with more easily than electronic ones, and they're harder to tabulate.

Representatives from two U.S. senators and three members of Congress attended the seminar, but most of the questions were posed by Jekot, who describes herself as a political independent, and Hugh Esco, political coordinator of the Green Party of Georgia.

"It's our position that machines are capable of showing whatever machines are programmed to show," Esco said. "I'm not a Luddite. I have a couple computers in the trunk and I know how to use them. But I know that I can't trust them with everything."

Asked Williams, the computer security expert: "Are you saying there's no such thing as a secure and accurate computer? Do you fly on airplanes?"


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: electronicvoting; votefraud
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1 posted on 08/23/2003 9:34:39 AM PDT by John Jorsett
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To: John Jorsett
What? A woman programmer? Never heard of such nonsense ;0)
2 posted on 08/23/2003 9:35:50 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (They can have my machete when they pry it from your cold dead skull...)
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To: John Jorsett
http://www.verifiedvoting.org/
3 posted on 08/23/2003 9:37:15 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help support terrorism.)
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To: John Jorsett
Oh how I love the smoke and mirrors here. Get the neo-luddites out to worry and fret over trivial matters of 1 billion to 1 odds, and completely ignore the fact that the dead, the corrupt, the illegal and the felon regularly vote multiple times in any given election.

The problem is not necessarily the software, it is in who is permitted to vote, and who tabulates the vote.

Let me count the votes or operate the voting process and for the best price I will deliver to your candidate the victory.
4 posted on 08/23/2003 9:40:56 AM PDT by Dr Warmoose
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To: Chad Fairbanks
This is scarey. Just think of what a male programmer could do. < /sarcasm >
5 posted on 08/23/2003 9:43:50 AM PDT by Leroy S. Mort
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To: Dr Warmoose
Get the neo-luddites out to worry and fret over trivial matters of 1 billion to 1 odds, and completely ignore the fact that the dead, the corrupt, the illegal and the felon regularly vote multiple times in any given election.

But that takes a lot more effort than just typing at a keyboard. If this programmer can deliver on her challenge, then the fixers wouldn't have to go to all that trouble, and could steal elections without exhuming grandma. She's thrown down the gauntlet and now has to perform. We'll soon see if her contention is true.

7 posted on 08/23/2003 9:47:07 AM PDT by John Jorsett
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To: Chad Fairbanks
A woman programmer?

Nah, can't be true. It's supposed to be 'pro-gamer'.

8 posted on 08/23/2003 9:47:36 AM PDT by FourPeas
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To: Dr Warmoose
Let me count the votes or operate the voting process and for the best price I will deliver to your candidate the victory.

I think it was Lenin who said it doesn't matter who votes, it's who counts them. A verifiable paper trail is the only way to preserve our right to choose our leaders. For some reason our leaders seem hellbent on preventing that from happening.

9 posted on 08/23/2003 9:48:46 AM PDT by steve50
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To: steve50
tampering by unscrupulous voters, poll workers and software developers. ... Do you fly on airplanes?

It's the unscrupulous political parties and well funded governments we should be worried about.


10 posted on 08/23/2003 9:54:35 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: steve50
It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything.
— Josef Stalin
11 posted on 08/23/2003 10:00:50 AM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (POW/MIA - Bring 'em home, or send us back! Semper Fi)
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To: John Jorsett
Someone will break the system, and Georgia or some other state is gonna wake up the morning after election to find that some unemployed hacker living in his mother's basement has been elected Governor. Maybe then they will understand that no system without a paper trail is verifiable and trustworthy.

So9

12 posted on 08/23/2003 10:03:15 AM PDT by Servant of the Nine (A Goldwater Republican)
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To: JoeSixPack1
Thanks Joe. I had a 50% chance, and got the usual result.
13 posted on 08/23/2003 10:04:16 AM PDT by steve50
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To: John Jorsett
They need to offer a $100,000 reward contest. Reward divided by all who are able to crack the system in 24 hours. This would be done in a controled environment, say in a wharehouse with the hackers being monitored and observed. Then use the results to shut down all manner of exploits used. Might need to run several of these contests.

When there is a set where no one is able to crack the system, then up the prize to $200,000 only paid to the first person to crack.
14 posted on 08/23/2003 10:13:07 AM PDT by taxcontrol (People are entitled to their opinion - no matter how wrong it is.)
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To: jfritsch
I'll put my money on Jekot.

I will too.

15 posted on 08/23/2003 10:17:34 AM PDT by kcordell
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To: John Jorsett
Representatives from two U.S. senators and three members of Congress attended the seminar, but most of the questions were posed by Jekot, who describes herself as a political independent, and Hugh Esco, political coordinator of the Green Party of Georgia.

Jekot is not a political independent. She's a flaming liberal Dem and a popular poster on DU.

Liberals are absolutely convinced electronic voting is a republican conspiracy to steal elections. I don't trust electronic voting myself but it isn't the republicans I worry about.

16 posted on 08/23/2003 10:31:36 AM PDT by NEPA
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Dude, of course, it is so obvious. Women aren't subject to the same rules men are, so who better to try and get around the system?
17 posted on 08/23/2003 10:34:26 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: John Jorsett
The system is designed to be vulnerable and hackable.

The Democrats will not permit interference with the deceased and illegal alien vote.

Try to have the voter rolls in your state purged of dead and/or non-resident former citizens of the state. Just try.

--Boris

18 posted on 08/23/2003 10:36:52 AM PDT by boris (Education is always painful; pain is always educational.)
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To: John Jorsett
If this programmer can deliver on her challenge, then the fixers wouldn't have to go to all that trouble, and could steal elections without exhuming grandma.

This is real simple. All the entrenched political powers have to do is outsource the electronic vote counting process to India or China.

19 posted on 08/23/2003 10:41:24 AM PDT by Dr Warmoose
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To: taxcontrol
Security isn't a matter of patching known holes, it should be a matter of design. If you design a system correctly, you won't have a bunch of holes to patch.

Remember, if there's X number of known holes, you have to assume there are X+1 actual holes.
20 posted on 08/23/2003 10:44:50 AM PDT by cryptical
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