Kathy Boudin needs your help NOW! (BARF ALERT)

Infoshop org ^ | August, 2003

[hotpotato]

Kathy Boudin needs your help NOW!

Dear Friend of Justice,

There are ten days left until Kathy Boudin goes before the parole board again. We urgently need your help. Kathy has spent 22 exemplary years in prison. Even the parole board is impressed with her remarkable work and disciplinary record. She is 60 years old.

In August 8th's N.Y. Times a spokesman for the state's Division of Parole is described as saying that "the people urging that Ms. Boudin remain locked up outnumber those who want her freed." This is simply not true! The parole board must hear that there is wide spread support for Kathy.

We need to flood the parole board and the governor's office with individual letters NOW!. Even if you have recently signed a group letter or written in the past we ask you to do 2 things:

l. Send the attached letter to the Parole Board and to the Governor. Copy it into an email or send it as an attachment to: nysparole@parole.state.ny.us

Write: "Support for Kathy Boudin's parole" in the subject heading.

2. Send this email and attachment as soon as possible to everyone on your email list.

We only have a week and a half left!

Thank you so much for your help,

Rocklanders Supporting Parole for Kathy Boudin

To learn more about Kathy Boudin visit: http://www.kathyboudin.com

Sample letter (to cut and paste, edit, or write your own.)

August 10, 2003

New York State Division of Parole 97 Central Ave. Albany, NY 12206

Dear Sir or Madam:

[hotpotato]

In August 8th's N.Y. Times a spokesman for the state's Division of Parole is described as saying that "the people urging that Ms. Boudin remain locked up outnumber those who want her freed." This is simply not true!

There they go again. The New York Times spreading untruths. But it would seem to favor Kathy Boudin. Oh, heck! I don't know who to believe.

But this site provides an email address for the parole office of the state of New York. I believe there is a push to get them to rescind the parole granted to Weatherman Kathy Boudin. Its:

nysparole@parole.state.ny.us

Another FR thread on Kathy Boudin:

NOT SO FAST, KATHY BOUDIN

[Kenton]

Can you imagine the uproar if a bunch of people had actively campaigned to release James Earl Ray?

[nickcarraway]

Can you imagine the uproar if a bunch of people had actively campaigned to release James Earl Ray?

Didn't Martin luther King Jr.s's family campaign to get Ray released a few years ago?

[Cyber Liberty]

Not sure what good that would have done. I think Ray croaked years ago.

[Kenton]

Didn't Martin luther King Jr.s's family campaign to get Ray released a few years ago?

Yeah, now that you mention it, I believe they did.

[nickcarraway]

It was shortly before he died. They said he was railroaded.

[stop_fascism]

No. They wanted to reopen the case to prove that it wasn't Ray who did the killing.

[nickcarraway]

exactly

[stop_fascism]

Kathy has spent 22 exemplary years in prison

Good reason to keep her in prison, since she was a c^nt from hell on the outside. Maybe she can be paroled when she's ninety and no longer a danger to society.

[Cyber Liberty]

I recall better now. They wanted to prove there remains a Vast White Wing Conspiracy.

[nickcarraway]

Yes, and they were willing to free the man who killed their father/husband to prove it.

[Mr.Atos]

Nice try at defelcting the issue, but the discussion is about Kathy Boudin... past, present, and future terrorist. Didn't this beast roll bombs under police cars and commit violent acts of insurrection against this nation. All that is being asked here, is that she serve her term, and pay the price for her crimes against the people of the United States. I do not care what MLKJR's family mistakingly viewed as compassion and I do not care if the the President himself wanted to autorize her parole. Releasing this dangerous beast into an atmosphere of hate as Leftist attempt a national coop would be stupid to say the least, and morally reprehensible to be certain. There is simply no reason to believe that she won't organize more attacks on behalf of her contemporary Communist compatriates. This beast is MORE dangerous now than she was before.

[dfrussell]

There are ten days left until Kathy Boudin goes before the parole board again. We urgently need your help. Kathy has spent 22 exemplary years in prison. Even the parole board is impressed with her remarkable work and disciplinary record. She is 60 years old.

Hey, no problem, I mean she was only along when a security guard and two police men were killed as part of a black racist robbery. Just sowing a few wild oats in her youth, I mean why hold something minor like that against her.

"Justice" is letting this idiot rot in jail. "Justice" would be putting her idiot father in with her.

[stop_fascism]

I wasn't "defelcting" the issue. I was answering a question. BTW - I agree with your analysis of Boudin.

[Cyber Liberty]

Politics always subsumes humanity with this bunch.

[lormand]

Here, let me help you!

[laconic]

Little Miss Bolshevik Boudin played a key role in the murder of the three police. They were alerted to a suspicious car pulling a U-haul into which the armed robbers had fled from the Brinks attack. When they stopped the car pulling the U-haul on the NY Thruway, those driving the car (Boudin and her "man" Gilbert) did not fit the description, so the police dropped their guard a bit. Boudin pleaded with them to put away their guns because they "scared" her (this from a wench who worked in a Greenwich Village bomb factory). The police deferred to the wishes of this young "lady" and put their guns down; upon signal, the three members of the Black Liberation Army sprang from the rear of the trailer and sprayed the police with automatic weapons capable of firing 100 rounds a minute. The defenseless police had no chance, thanks to Little Miss Bolshevik. She will never get their blood off her hands. Perdition to her and Gilbert.

[Restorer]

It's interesting that the article states she is in prison for participating in a robbery. Nothing about murder being involved.

[Mr.Atos]

Indeed! Pardons... wrongly directed reply.

[Teacher317]

The first (and admittedl only) article I read about her seemed rather deferential, and that her only involvement in the crime was being in the vehicle. She admitted to helping the black militants rob the bank by being white and in a U-Haul (to minimize chances of being pulled over), but never shot at anyone (did she even have a weapon?). 22 years for aiding and abetting the commission of a felony where police and guards were shot and killed, but not assaulting anyone herself? Seems about right. (Those pulling the trigger should be worm food, of course.) What did she do to deserve more time, other than have political leanings that Stalin would admire?

Giving 50-Life for every contribution to a crime really doesn't seem like justice to me. Give me a reason to support your position (a sincere request, not a flamechallenge)).

[Teacher317]

Thanks for the additional details. However, I doubt any one of the victims would be in better shape if their weapons were drawn. They merely would've returned more rounds more quickly (and any policeman stupid enough to disregard training for someone's emotional inconvenience shouldn't be on the force, anyway).

22 years for being in a truck helping in a robbery seems about right to me. If you want her to rot in jail for making bombs, using bombs, murdering innocents or even lying to police, then convict her for those! Until then, her sentence was for her part in that robbery, and 22 years seems like an appropriate sentence for conspiring and aiding and abetting.

Don't make the justice system into a clearinghouse for incarcerating those who are unpopular or have other crimes that have not been prosecuted. It's got enough problems as it is.

[laconic]

I disagree; the police were taken unawares and had no opportunity to defend themselves simply because of this wench. They were armed with six shot pistols; if they'd been on guard, there would have been more than enough available shot to smash the three hiding in the back before they could get out of the truck, aim and fire off their automatic weapons (they also destroyed the arm of one of the police who was not killed, maiming him for life). But for Miss Bolshevik Boudin, at least some of them would undoubtedly be alive today. By the way, her seatmate Gilbert got a 139-year sentence, and thank you, will never get out absent some fool governor who pardons him.

[buffyt]

I teach my children who are now 19-22 years old, if you do the crime, you do the time. Period. If you don't want to go to prison for many many years, don't break the law. And the laws that sixites radicals like Kathy B broke are some pretty big ones. Didn't she cause two cops to be killed?

I met Dick Power back in the late 1960s. His sister is Katherine Ann Power, who surrendered in 1995 after almost twenty five years underground. I know what crimes she committed and what it did to her family... having her wanted, on the FBI most wanted posters at US Post offices for many years. The FBI, etc., followed and spyed on her family and friends for many years. Perhaps until she turned herself in, in 1995. I have no pity for Kathy B. or for Katherine P. Couple of losers.

If you ever cause a policeman to die, while you are committing a crime, and it is intentional, you deserve to be put to death anyway.

[Teacher317]

139... why so different from hers? Did he fire at them, too?

And what about the shooters? Are they still wasting my good air?

[buffyt]

I think most criminals are getting away with little or no time these days. Prison sentences are not long enough!

[sport]

Just sent an e-mail to p.b. requesting that they do not release her.

This is a dangerous, murdering terrorist that should have been executed.

[Revolting cat!]

So, given your position, what do you think (I'm curious) of Miss Bolshevik being presented to us by her supporters in and out of the unaccountable parole board and in the media as some kind of Mother Teresa, you know, "worked with prisoners" "helped with AIDS" and so on (you might have read the articles. Sorry, I don't have the links)?

[Teacher317]

I disagree. After 2 generations of politicians playing on the emotions of the electorate and being "tough on crime" by haphazardly increasing penalties, I would venture to say the opposite. (Now, with jail overcrowding "fixes", generous probationary and parole criteria, and a seemingly endless supply of liberal judges, the net effect may be loewr sentences, but that wasn't what I was addressing.) Sadly, we have let thm impose a "zero tolerance" model on the judiciary, where distant politicians with no knowledge of the individual cases they are forever manipulating can mandate the punishment and take most of the judge's, jury's, and prosecutor's judgment, common sense, and expertise right out of the proceeding.

[sport]

There are ten days left until Kathy Boudin goes before the parole board again. We urgently need your help. Kathy has spent 22 exemplary years in prison. Even the parole board is impressed with her remarkable work and disciplinary record. She is 60 years old.

I wonder if the individuals that were murdered are impressed by her disciplinary record.

As I stated in an earlier reply, she should have been executed 22 years ago.

[gunnedah]

She was only responsible for killing police officers, now Charles Manson and his crew killed celebtities so they should be kept locked up forever.
This double set of standards eventually will come home to haunt Americas criminal JUST-US System.

[laconic]

Not materially different conduct; Boudin's father was Leonard Boudin, a well-known radical Manhattan lawyer (not much anti-parent "rebellion" here, she was a real REd Diaper baby). He had the skills to plea bargain a lesser amount of time for his daughter; Gilbert went to trial and got the strong arm of justice across his face.

I don't know what happened to the others; although I can be certain they were NOT executed (this was Mario Cuomo's New York, where such things did not happen).

[D1X1E]

Kathy has spent 22 exemplary years in prison.

Maybe you should have tried the exemplary behavior thing on the outside Kathy

[cake_crumb]

"What did she do to deserve more time, other than have political leanings that Stalin would admire?"

Because she was convicted of murder.

[stop_fascism]

I can't add much to laconic's excellent posts. At the time of these crimes, the woman had been a fugitive for 11 years (due to a few other minor little murders). She wasn't just "in the vehicle" she was an integral participant in all phases of the crime. When she talked the policemen into putting away their weapons knowing armed men would then kill them, she committed premeditated murder, just as much as if she had shot them herself. It was a shame she wasn't sentenced to death at the time, but her daddy was a lawyer, and the legal profession takes care of their own. She was sentenced to 22 to life. I think she should do life. From what her supporters say, she is a much better citizen in prison then she was on the outside.

[Bringbackthedraft]

Let her out! Hillary needs her support and vote!

[sistergoldenhair]

Another one.

[facedown]

When she talked the policemen into putting away their weapons knowing armed men would then kill them, she committed premeditated murder, just as much as if she had shot them herself.

She should have been executed.

[Atchafalaya]

Charlie will stay locked up because it is obvious there is more in Charlie's skull than just Charlie.

[friendly]

LiberalSpeak: "Dear Friend of Justice"

Translation to English: "Attention socialist scum supporters of murdering leftists"

[gunnedah]

The point to be made:
Probably all of those involved should have been executed and I personally would not have had a problem with that.
The Judicial System is controlled by power and money and Justice is not what it seems to the outside world.
The Hollywood crowd that keeps these people locked up is the same crowd that cries for Abu Jamil the killer of Police Officer Danile Faulkner to be freed.Because they have the money and control of the media they can get their cause across.
I personally knew a police officer that was murdered and the killer was parolled within 12-15 years and he escaped several times before they parolled him.
The amount of Justice one gets is in proportion to the amount of money one has in most cases.
The only way for law and order to exist is it must be equal for all and until you deal with it personally you will never understand the system in this country.Maybe as long as you can be kept in the dark it can continue, I dont know.
EQUALITY UNDER THE LAW- I believe I have heard that somewhere.

[hotpotato]

Most states have laws that in the case of an individual involved in the commision of a crime that results in the death of the victim, regardless if that individual was only driving the getaway car, he/she will be charged with the death of that victim as if they pulled the trigger themselves. Did you also note she was making bombs ten plus years before that? Having blown up the house where she lived and where three of her bomb-making "friends" died, she still went on to pursue a violent life knowing people would die. In her sentencing phase, her history would be integral to the time given which was 20 years to life. Because two policeman are dead, it should be life. We owe those that put their life on the line for us that much.

[hotpotato]

btw, maybe you haven't seen the website set up by the family of the slain police officers. It tells a different story than Kathy Boudin and her minion of celebrity supporters. See the

O'Grady and Brown website

I tend to find this site more credible than the group of anarchist and Castro-supporting celebrities pushing for her release, who have omitted important details.

[XHogPilot]

Boudin is alive because of NYs failure to use capital punishment. She deserves a death!

[Those_Crazy_Liberals]

I believe she killed a black police officer.

[murdoog]

Kathy has spent 22 exemplary years in prison. Even the parole board is impressed with her remarkable work and disciplinary record. She is 60 years old.

I have been going back and forth on my own mind about whether or not Kathy Boudin should be paroled. But the two sentences above have tipped me to the "against parole" side.

They seem innocuous, but if you do the math, you'll see she was 38 years old at time of the crime. I did a lot of stupid things in my youth, and have compassion for people who did stupid, even evil, things in their youth and are now older and wiser. But 38 years old? She knew better.

[hotpotato]

That's what I think. If she had been 18, 19 years old, I would feel differently. But the fact that she was making bombs in her late 20's, hiding out between then and until she participated in a robbery where one was killed and the other seriously injured and then immediately was involved in the killing of two police officers and injuring of a third in her late 30's, tells me she should never be allowed to walk the streets where she can become associated with such groups again. Or where she can incite such activity again.