[bets]

It's these darned pc networks. If companies and utilities would have stuck w/mainframes and midranges, they wouldn't be in this cheesy, duct-taped, vulnerable, pc networked boat. (can you tell I don't like pc-based networks?)

[prarie earth]

Yep, and how vulnerable are we still?

[swarthyguy]

Mainframes for security bump.

Darn gremlins in the electric grid again.

"Evidence of absence is not absence of evidence" - Condi Rice.