Slammer worm crashed Ohio nuke plant network (Still Think The Blackout Wasn't A Cyber Attack???)

SecurityFocus News ^ | Aug 19 2003 | Kevin Poulsen

[mabelkitty]

I heard something to that effect last Saturday from someone who works there. I got no details, but it was something to the effect that, "This was an impossibility."

Sounded like a hacker or virus to me.

[mabelkitty]

How do you know it wasn't interal sabotage?
Know how many visas we have in this country doing IT work?

[mabelkitty]

Cleveland doesn't even have generators for its water system. That's worse to me.

[GOP_1900AD]

How many H1Bs and Greencard holders who are also part of Al Qaida cells do First Energy and Detroit Edison employ? Note the large concentrations of such folks in these two companies areas of operations.

[oceanview]

the virus has be introduced onto a system inside the corporate firewall, it cannot "get in" so long as even basic firewall prudence is used.

[tophat9000]

I manage data backbones.......... This is asinine; safety and control systems have no need to be connected to the public internet....

[JustPiper]

Bump!

[JustPiper]

"Evidence of absence is not absence of evidence" - Condi Rice.

Great Condi quote!

[JustPiper]

What about someone being their for hands-on sabotage?

[JustPiper]

How do you know it wasn't interal sabotage? Know how many visas we have in this country doing IT work?

Bump!

[VOA]

bump

[RepublicanArmy]

Ok sorry about taking so long to get back to ya'll but had computer problems. Anyways to those of you who already posted this story I'm sorry I missed the thread.

Now I want to clairify what my position is on this. I'm not saying it was Al-Quaida that did this but I do believe it's possible it was a cyber attack via worm, virus, etc...

I can't believe they have have them on an online network either, it just sounds plain stupid to me. They need to get them off a network and deal with them individually are we are all in big trouble.

[chimera]

What about someone being their for hands-on sabotage?

Sabotage what, the hardwired system? Since the control room is a secured area then the security guards kill the saboteur. Since the safety systems are fail-safe then you might have to re-start the plant after an unplanned shutdown and repairs to whatever switches or modules might have been damaged, but that's about it.

Sabotage the computer system? Well, like I said, that doesn't run the plant anyway. So if your computer is acting flaky you run the plant with the usual standalone, hardwired controls, and do what most of us here do when our computers act weird. Fix the bug ourselves, or get our computer geek buddy to help us, or call in a professional.